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is, rac xdeboda wina kviraSi

samarTlis

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#141 (748) 10 - 11 dekemberi, 2012 weli2

Temebi arc ise bevri iyo da rac iyo, faqtobrivad, yvela parlaments ukavSird-eboda – SoTa malaSxiam raRac wamoiknavla, kako boboxiZem brZnuli rCevebis darigebas mihyo xeli, mwvane gaCeCilaZes sakuTari si-briyve mwvane xaxviviT SerCa, goga xaCiZe jer gadairia, Semdeg dawynarda, nukri qanTaria ki lamis daiWires da mklavi moWres, „ratom kargi agigias“ pontSi.

arada, ra Tqva nukrim imisTana, aseTi ambavi rom atyda? Tqva, politikuri suteniorebi xarTo, `nacionalebs~ uTxra da Tavidan ki ver gavige, ra ewyinaT am uaRresad ukanaskne-lebs, magram Semdeg, Rrmad rom Cavfiqrdi da fsiqoanalizi rom moviSvelie, yvelafers mivxvdi.

`nacebs~ ewyinaT, asakze rom miuTiTes. ax-lave ori sityviT agixsniT – amdeni weli maT nacbozbandas uwodebdnen da axla nacsutban-dad moixsenies. anu, daberdiT da bozobaze veRar qaCavTo. arada, qaCaven. xom gagigiaT, CiColina ise ar daecema, virisa rom ar zi-doso, magram ginda virisa gizidia da gindac, uaxloesi winaprisa migirTmevia didi kovziT.

am ori kviris win erT-erTi mediaeqsperti (mediabazarze rva weli rom moRvaweobs da rva mkiTxvelis guli rom ver moigo) erT Jurnalists sxvisi biografiis gamoqveynebas ukrZalavda, xolo gasul kviraSi ukvdavma deputatma, kako(ie) boboxiZem saparlamento umravlesobis wevrebs fiqri aukrZala – par-lamentis TbilisSi dabrunebaze fiqrs Tavi daanebeTo. raRacebs mied-moedo, raRacebs wamoedo da wamoego da arc rCevis micema daizara: quTaisis, rogorc saparlamento dedaqalaqis, ganviTarebis mimarTulebiT muSaoba daiwyeTo.

axla, im citatas gaaxlebT, romelic me „interpresniusma“ maaxla: ̀ guli mwydeba, rom saqarTvelos mosaxleoba ar ufiqrdeba, ra xifaTi elodeba Tbiliss regionebis ganuvi-Tareblobis SemTxvevaSi, ra xifaTi eliT da zogadad, ra xifaTi elodeba qveyanas, Tuki saqarTvelo kvlav erTi qalaqis _ Tbilisis amara darCeba“.

kakoies guli wydeba da... ai, dardi!!! „ai, dardi“ imitom, rom kako agrZelebs: `sadme weria, rom saqarTvelos parlamentSi mxolod Tbiliselebi unda iyvnen?! rogor ggoniaT, ratom axerxeben xoneli an walenjixeli deputatebi TbilisSi yofnas da ratom ver axerxeben Tbiliseli deputatebi quTaisSi yofnas?!“

kakoie aRSfoTebuli da... ai, dardi. Tumca, erTi SekiTxva mec mebadeba – sadme weria, rom kako boboxiZe sul deputati unda iyos? amx-ela mTavarsardali kaci xar, Jurnalisti gi-cemia, wagebuli omis Semdeg Sua rusTavelze, gaxarebuls gicekvia, „miSa magaria“ gimRe-ria... wadi, ra, goga xaCiZe naxe, guram donaZe gaagore da gubaz sanikiZes mousmine.

modi, gubaz sanikiZes Cvenc movusminoT: „dRes parlamentSi opozicia ar arsebobs. Tqven opoziciaSi yofnis moraluri ufleba unda moipovoT. aRiareT danaSauli da moipoveT ufleba, rom opoziciaSi iyoT. saqa-rTveloSi samarTalma puri Wama, saxelmwifo win midis da amas veravin SeaCerebs“.

amboben, puri asuqebso. samarTalma puri rom Wama, es kargia, magram zedmeti puri aris zedmeti wona, xolo zedmeti wona iwvevs naadrev sikvdils. politpatimrebisa da politdevnilebis sias rom gadavxede, mivx-vdi, rom samarTals saWiroze meti puri aqvs naWami. amaze saparlamento umravlesobis siac metyvelebs da... ar minda, batono, gas-uqebuli da aqoSinebuli samarTali, 90-60-90 samarTali minda. am parametrebze ki, ratom-Rac, kaxa benduqiZe da xaTuna gogoriSvili gamaxsendnen.

am ori kviris win, Sorena SaverdaSvilis gadamkide, lamis, kaxa benduqiZis fani gavxdi, xolo gasul kviraSi mwvane gaCeCilaZis wya-lobiT, pirvelad moxda, xaTuna gogoriSvils rom daveTanxme.

albaT gaxsovT, rom ramdenime dRis win gia (mwvane) gaCeCilaZem sxvis magivrad misca xma, sxvis nacvlad daaWira pults TiTi. hoda, gasul kviraSi „sxvis magivrad xmis micemis“ faqtTan dakavSirebuli sakiTxi parlamentis saproceduro sakiTxTa da wesebis komitetis sxdomaze ganixiles da aRmoCnda, rom gaCeCi-laZem „ar icis“, vis magivrad misca kenWisyris dros xma.

ar icis da, ha!!!Semdeg, komitetis Tavmjdomarem, irine

imerliSvilma Tqva, rom daudgeneli darCa im deputatis vinaoba, visi pultic gaCeCilaZem gamoiyena.

daudgeneli darCa da, ha!!!da am dros, xaTuna gogoriSvilma aRniSna,

raRac eWvi mepareba, an iman ar icodes da an aman ver daadginoso. am xnis kaci moviyare da ver warmomedgina, Tu odesme, rameSi xaTuna gogoriSvils daveTanxmebodi.

amitom vambob, rom sxva demokratiul in-stitutebTan erTad aucilebelia daginebis institutis Seqmna-Camoyalibeba da ganviTa-reba, xolo parlamentSi – daginebis komite-tis Seqmna. daigineb da burusic gaifanteba. aba, is sjobs, rom sxedan deputatebi da rom mkiTxaoben, vis magivrad misca gaCeCilaZem da, saerTod, vin vis magivrad iZleva?!

da mainc, vis magivrad misca gia (mwvane) gaCeCilaZem? amis garkveva martivad Sei-Zleba – Camoiaron quTaisis restornebi da gaarkvion, vin ukisra im dReebSi maRariCi gaCeCilaZes. aseve, Camoiaron restornebi da gaarkvion, sad da visTan erTad daxarja gaCeCilaZem sadeputato xelfasis is 20 procenti, romelic, wesiT, unda dakaveboda.

kievSi ki ZebnilTa 25 procenti daakaves, rac erT kacs Seadgens. „sami piris – daTa axa-laias, soso TofuriZisa da geronti alanias – saerTaSoriso Zebna grZeldeba“, – acxadebs saqarTveloSi interpolis erovnuli cen-traluri biuros ufrosi aleqsandre arayiS-vili da rasac acxadebs, kargad acxadebs, me ki, rac vTqvi, vTqvi cudad. SemeSala – aseTi oTxi Zebnilis 25 procenti erTi kaci ar aris, erTi piri unda meTqva da, ise, pirze metad, xaxa ufro swori iqneboda. mokled, kievSi Zebnili xaxa daakaves – oleg melnikovi.

es ise, cnobisTvis, Torem jer isev par-lamentSi vimyofebiT da isev parlamentis ambebs mimovixilavT. Tu atyobT, cota ar iyos, miWirs da rom miWirs, mikvirs. Tumca, axsna yvelafers moeZebneba.

„quTaisSi mdebare parlamentis SenobaSi Jangbadis maCvenebeli sakmarisze dabalia, naxSirorJangis maCvenebeli ki aweulia, haeris Semadgenloba janmrTelobisTvis sasargeblo ar aris, kerZod, naxSirorJan-gisa da Jangbadis raodenoba haeris saSualo Semadgenlobis maCvenebels ar pasuxobs.

`naxSirorJangis maCvenebeli aweulia, Jangbadi ki _ daweuli, ase 19%-is farglebSi.

rom deputatebi raRacnairad mimkvdare-bulebi da miknavlebulebi arian da SoTa malaSxia rom aris, imaze uaresad gamoiy-urebian. Tavad SoTa malaSxia Tavs kargad grZnobs – parazitebisa da baqteriebisTvis aseTi garemo pirdapir miswrebaa, magram ra qnas mariam sajaiam? lamazi gogoa, azrovnebs kidec da sulac ar minda, rom nina wkrialaS-vils daemsgavsos – SemaSfoTeblad daberdes da aRmaSfoTeblad gamoCerCetdes.

ai, Jangbadis naklebobiT gamowveuli siCerCetis saukeTeso magaliTi – „opozi-cioneri deputatis, daviT darCiaSvilis mt-kicebiT, axali xelisuflebis mier dapatim-rebul adamianTa raodenoba mniSvnelovnad aWarbebs 2003 wels, revoluciuri gziT mosuli xelisuflebis mxridan dapatimreb-ulTa ricxvs“.

siCerCete ki imaSi mdgomareobs, rom am SemTxvevaSi, mTavari raodenoba ki ar aris, mTavari xarisxia – 2003 wels ̀ nacebi~ wvril-man da msxvilman yalTabandebs iWerdnen, axla ki didi da patara nameZavarebis (xalxurad – nabozrebis) dro dadga. da, saerTod, yvela ubedureba, rac am qveyanas Wirs, yalTabande-bisa da nameZavarebis kohabitaciis Sedegia.

rac dro gadis, sul ufro metad momwons es sityva – kohabitacia. adamianebma unda SeZlon kohabitacia da aranairi mniSvneloba ar aqvs, ramdeni moaxerxebs amas. rac meti – ukeTesi. istorias axsovs kohabitacebi – 26 komisari, sami axalaia, ori gabaSvili da a.S. gasul kviraSi ki... modi, sjobs, niusi Cavi-kiTxoT: „lagodexis gamgeblis Tanamdebo-baze gamocxadebul konkursSi 106 kandidati miiRebs monawileobas. amis Sesaxeb informa-cias radio `hereTi~ avrcelebs. lagodexis municipalitetis sakrebuloSi ar gamor-icxaven, rom kandidatTa raodenoba kidev gaizardos, radgan sakonkurso ganacxadebis miReba 7 dekembers unda dasruldes“.

erTi, im 106 kandidatis TavSi Camaxeda... magram ar megona, am patara raionSi amdeni xalxi Tu cxovrobda, magram iqneb, sul 106 kaci cxovrobs da yovel maTgans gamgebloba surs? ra Tqma unda, 106-ze metni iqnebian. ra Tqma unda, yvela Tavisi gundiT apirebs mosvlas, anu mTeli lagodexi gamgeobaSi muS-aobaze ocnebobs. yvelaze swori iqneba, Tu lagodexis raions 106 tol nawilad davyofT da yvela kandidats davakmayofilebT. erTad aixdenen lagodexur ocnebas da iqneb swored amas niSnavs kohabitacia?

„palestinis statusTan dakavSirebiT miRebuli gadawyvetileba praqtikulad, „hamasis“ cnobas niSnavs~, _ amis Sesaxeb saparlamento umciresobis erT-erTma liderma SoTa malaSxiam ganacxada. misi TqmiT, „hamasi“ is organizaciaa, romelmac scno afxazeTisa da cxinvalis regionis da-moukidebloba“.

aki, micvalebulebi ar laparakobeno? laparakoben da mere rogor! aki, viri dai-Ralao? daiRala, daisvena da alaparakda kidec – saqarTvelos yofili premier-min-istri zurab noRaideli partia „momavali saqarTvelosTvis“ dabrunebisTvis samar-Tlebriv brZolas iwyebs. rogorc noRaid-elma Jurnalistebs ganucxada, miuxedavad brZolis dawyebisa, is politikur aqtivobas am etapze ar apirebs“.

raRac ver gavige... Tu politikur aq-tivobas ar apirebs, maS partia ra TavSi saxlelad unda? raRacaSia saqme, eg iseTi Jukia, namdvilad rame eqneba mofiqrebuli. `nacebs~ emuqreboda, Zvlebs dagamtvrevTo da, rogorc gasul kviraSi gaxda cnobili, putins xerxemali dauzianebia, lavrovs xeli moutexia... kiseric utexiaT, magram ra SuaSia aq noRaideli? faqtia, raRac SuaSi namd-vilad aris, magram Cemi mokle WkuiT amas ver Cavwvdebi, seriozuli analitikuri gonebaa saWiro. ai, miSa rom aris, TavxeliZe da qeTa gabiani Tavis Tea TuTberiZiTurT. magram amaT ar ecalaT, peticias werdnen.

„gvjera, rom axali mTavrobisa da Tqvens pirad interesSi ar Sedis axalaiasTan fizi-kuri angariSsworeba. magram, miuxedavad Tqveni dapirebisa, migvaCnia, rom ar arse-bobs absoluturi garantia, rom „qurdulma samyarom“, romlis gavlenac saqarTvelos cixeebSi swored baCo axalaiam aRkveTa, masze ar iZios Suri“, – im sameulma am peticiaze 47 adamians moawerina xeli. bevri irbines, magram ormocdarvamde ver gaqaCes. miSa poloneTSi iyo, gia baramiZe – vaSingtonSi, nika CitiZe – pirdapir eTerSi, xolo Salva naTelaSvils, rogorc erTma niWierma dawera „feisbuqSi“, buCqebSi Seuswres, sadac Raribebs aZlevda.

ise, im xelmowerebs kargad Tu davaTva-lierebT, ar gamovricxav, rom mwvane gias (gaCeCilaZes) vinmes magivrad hqondes xeli mowerili.

principSi, es yvelaferi sul Cveulebrivi ambebi iyo, axla ki erTi cudi ambavi unda giTxraT – Sps „skainetma“ numeraciis resur-siT sargeblobis nebarTva miiRo. rogorc „interpresniuss“ saqarTvelos komunika-ciebis erovnuli komisiidan acnobes, Sps „skainets“ numeraciis resursiT sargeblobis nebarTva komisiis dRevandel sxdomaze mieniWa.

da ra aris aq cudi? – ikiTxavT Tqven. kiTx-vaze gipasuxebT:

Zalian miyvars holivudis filmebi, gansa-kuTrebiT – blokbasterebi. Cemze waruSleli STabeWdileba moaxdina orma filmma – „ter-minatori – 3“ da „2012“. „terminatorSi“ kompiuteruli programa „skaineti“ Tavs aiSvebs da iwyeba mesame msoflio omi, xolo „2012“–Si naCvenebia warRvna, romelic xdeba 21 dekembers.

axla, kinoebs nu momayolebT...megobrebo, axla 2012 welia, Sps „skainetma“

numeraciis resursiT sargeblobis nebarTva miiRo da 21 dekemberic axlovdeba.

albaT, mimixvdiT...„demokratiis klasikuri formulaa is,

rodesac qveyanas hyavs erTi prezidenti, erTi premier-ministri, bevri yofili prezi-denti, bevri yofili premier-ministri da arc erT maTgani cixeSi ar aris, arc mokluli an gauCinarebulia, _ amis Sesaxeb saqarTvelos prezidentma mixeil saakaSvilma ganacxada“.

albaT, miuxvdiT.„qarTuli ocnebis~ reitingi kosmosSia

asuli, _ amis Sesaxeb „interpresniuss“ sa-parlamento umravlesobis liderma, daviT saganeliZem ganucxada.

rogorc vxvdebi, warRvnas mxolod „qar-Tuli ocnebis“ reitingi Tu gadaurCeba.

rogor davifanteT da daviqsaqseT – saakaSvili poloneTSi, baramiZe amerikaSi, melnikovi kievSi, daTa, soso da geronti jandabaSi, „ocnebis“ reitingi kosmosSi...

„Tqvenc venaSi wasuli gegoneT, ara? de-partamenti isev aqtiurad ganagrZobs muS-aobas. ubralod, es presas aRar ainteresebs“, _ aRniSna naTia mogelaZem Cemi megobari saagentos agentTan saubrisas da rac SeeZlo nazad gaiRima.

uJasebic miyvars.S.n. (Sors, nacebo) Tumca, umjobesia,

cercvis naxevris miwaSi Cafvlis dros zed daayolo: „Sors, meWeWo, cercvo, Zirs! Cemken nuRar izamT pirs“.

(mark tveni, „tom soieris Tavgadasavali“)

is, rac xdeboda wina kviraSi

dito gelovani

aiReb cercvs da orad gaapob. Semdeg meWeWs danas dausvam da roca iqidan sisxli gamova, cercvis erT naWers wausvam; Semdeg amoTxri ormos da am naxevars miwaSi Caflav daaxloebiT SuaRamisas, gzajvaredinze, mTvaris dabadebisas, meore naxevars ki dawvav. saqme imaSia, rom is naxevari, romelsac sisxli acxia, TandaTan miizidavs meore naxevars, sisxli ki amasobaSi meWeWs miizidavs da meWeWic male gaqreba.

(mark tveni, „tom soieris Tavgadasavali“)

samarTlis parametrebi

savaraudod, swored amis gamo ganicdian TanamSromlebi diskomforts, usiamovno Seg-rZnebebs, gulis revas, Tavis tkivils“, _ ai, aseTi daskvna daido mas Semdeg, rac parla-mentis Senobis eqspertiza Catarda.

rogorc xedavT, situacia erTdroulad SemaSfoTebelic aris da aRmaSfoTebelic. sxvisi ar vici, magram piradad me, Zalianac madardebs Cveni parlamentarebis janmrT-eloba. kargad Tu daakvirdebiT, dainaxavT,

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politika

eqskluziuri versia

satyeo departamentis yofili Tavmjdomare, romelsac saqalaqo sasamarTlom Tanamdebobis borotad gamoyenebis braldebiT, 6-wliani patimroba miusaja, 24 sxva adamianTan erTad, politdevnilad aRiares. biZina giorgobianma qveyana meored 2005 wlis dasawyisSi datova, mas mere, rac vano merabiSvilsa da sxva maRalCinosnebs xe-tyiT ukanono vaWrobaSi dasdo brali. sxvaTa Soris, eka beselias komisia pirveli ar aris, vinc mis saqmes swavlobda _ es saqme jer kidev 2007 wels Seqmnil saparlamento komisiaSi wlebia devs. beselias komisiaSi ki mas axali garemoeba, 900 000-evroiani jarima daemata, romelic giorgobians jerac ar moxsnia. ras apirebs, interpolis saZiebo bazidan amoRebisa da jarimis moxsnis Semdeg, rodis brundeba qveyanaSi, ra formiT iTxovs reabilitacias da kvlav erTveba Tu ara aqtiur politikaSi _ `versias~ eqskluziur intervius jer kidev germaniaSi myofi biZina giorgobiani amjerad, politikuri devnilis statusiT aZlevs:

_ saqarTveloSi 9-wliani emigraciis Semdeg 2004 wels davbrundi da qveyana isev davtove 2005 wlis martis da-sawyisSi. amis mizezi kud-is maSindeli Tavmjdomaris daTa axalaias, Ss ministr vano merabiSvilis, Tavdacvisa da uSiS-roebis komitetis Tavmjdomaris givi TargamaZis, giga boke-rias, mixeil saakaSvilisa da maTi gundis damokidebuleba iyo Cemdami. Cemi devna ki gansakuTrebiT mwvave fazaSi mas mere Sevida, rac premieri zurab Jvania mokles, radgan mis kadrad viTvlebodi.

_ Tqven maSin vano merabiSvilis interesebi gada-kveTeT xe-tyis biznesSi!

_ isini miiCnevdnen da, marTlac ase iyo, rom saqa-rTveloSi zurab Jvanias mowveviT davbrundi. Semdeg CaTvales, rom ukve SeeZloT Cemze generaluri Setevis ganxorcieleba.

me vewinaaRmdegebodi kud-is oficrebis mier wamowyebul kriminalur garigebas, romelic xe-tyiT ukanono vaWrobas exeboda, isini ki aseT 22-mde firmas mfarvelobdnen.

minda giTxraT, saqarTvelos garda, germaniis moqa-laqec var, anu politikuri TavSesafari, rogorc aseTi, ar mWirdeboda, Tumca germanulma mxarem es saqme politikur devnad mainc miiCnia. es Cemi dakavebiTac dadasturda 2011 wlis agvistoSi, espaneTSi, interpolis saSualebiT, saqa-rTvelos moTxovnis safuZvelze da germaniis sakonsulom maSinac yvelaferi gaakeTa Cems gasaTavisufleblad.

_ ra dokumentebs flobda beselias komisia Tqvens saqmeze, ra gaxda gadamwyveti argumenti, ris gamoc politikuri devnilis statusi miiReT?

_ 2007 wels parlamentSi Seiqmna specialuri komisia, sadac Cemi saqmec ganixileboda. masSi 3 saparlamento fraqcia Sedioda, romelTac dawvrilebiT gamoiZies im mowmeebis aRiarebiTi Cvenebebi, romlebic merabiSvilma da axalaiam Cems winaaRmdeg, iZulebiT miacemines, xolo kontrolis palatis TanamSromlebs gaurkveveli daskvnebi daawerines. aseTive zewolis qveS iyo iusticiis saministros saeqspertizo biuroc, xolo is xalxi, vinc amaze ar wavida, samsaxurebidan gaaTavisufles da maT winaaRmdeg yovlad usafuZvlod daiwyes sisxlis samarTlebrivi devna. am sapar-lamento komisiis mier dadebuli daskvna dResac ZalaSia, dokumenturad dadasturebulia da 4 tomad akinZuli devs!

_ ra Seicvala axla, mxolod is, rom saTaveSi axali xelisuflebaa?

_ maSin Sedegi ver dadga, radgan giga bokeriam 2007 wlis agvistoSi, daskvnis ganxilva parlamentis dRis wesrigidan amoaRebina, magram mokvleuli masalebi xom darCa, ara? swored es masalebi gadaeca dRes arsebul komisiasac. ki arian sindisTan mwyralad ̀ nacionaluri moZraobis~ depu-tatebi, magram verc isini uaryofdnen Cems politikur dev-nas, amitom Cems sakiTxze xma ar amouRiaT. maTTvis Zalian

mZime pasuxebi da argumentebi ido Cems saqmeSi, rac bevri laparakis saSualebas ar miscemda. Sesabamisad, gverdi auares biZina giorgobians da iseT xalxze ilaparakes am politdevnilebis siaSi, vis saqmeSic pirdapiri samxilebi, ase vTqvaT, ver ido.

_ Tumca, iyo axali garemoeba, rac, wesiT, Tqven saqmes unda damateboda _ fond `qomagis~ angariSze gadar-icxuli 90 000 evro, ris gamoc, naTia mogelaZis uwyebam 900 000 evroTi dagajarimaT. es jarima mogexsnaT?

_ sxvaTa Soris, rogorc batonma jambul gamcemliZem da ia metrevelma gamagebines, germanuli fondidan Sewiruli es Tanxa maT 2 kviris win daubrundaT xazinidan. Sesabam-isad, germaniaSi saCivari aRar Sevitane, magram es jarima me isev madevs.

_ anu, axla, saqarTveloSi rom CamoxvideT, SeiZleba maSinve giTxran, 900 000 evro gadagvixadeo?

_ 900 000 evros ver gadavixdi, radgan amis saSualeba ar maqvs, magram saqme isaa, rom me iseTi kaci ar var, vinc abdaubda nabijebs dgams.

_ am teqstiT erTxel ukve SeafaseT irakli oqruaS-vilis dabruneba. gamodis, samSobloSi maincdamainc ar mogeCqarebaT, ara?

_ dedamiwaze yvelafers Tavis wesi da rigi aqvs. arse-bobs kanoni da Tu gvinda, saqarTveloSi adamians ecxovre-bodes, es kanonebi unda davicvaT _ moqalaqe, romelic interpoliT iZebneba, Tu im qveyanaSi Cava, vinc mas devnis, unda daakavon _ es mec unda vicode da oqruaSvilmac.

jerjerobiT, arc me var amoRebuli interpolis saZiebo bazidan. roca amnistia ZalaSi Seva da kanons mesame mosmeniT miiReben, mere prokuraturas unda mivmarTo. Tu mas aRa-raferi aqvs Cems winaaRmdeg, unda gaugzavnos dokumenti Ss saministros Sesabamis uwyebas, romelic interpolSi adamianis Zebnis dawyeba-Sewyvetas axdens. mxolod mas mere, rac werilobiTi dasturi meqneba, rom saqarTvelos interpolma Sewyvita Cemi Zebna, SemeZleba, saqarTveloSi vimogzauro. amave dros, is scenaric unda gaviTvaliswino, TbilisSi rom davbrunde da aeroportSi damakavon.

es marto Cemze ki ara, qveynis imijzec cudad imoqmedebs _ germaniis moqalaqec var da rom damiWiron, saqmeSi avtomaturad erTveba germaniis sakonsulo TbilisSi, amitom ar minda, avantiuraze wavide da velodebi saqmis samarTlebrivi mimdinareobis dasrulebas, vidre garantirebuli ar viqnebi, rom skandaluri raRacebi ar moxdeba! skandalebi da zedmeti Tavgadasavlebi axla Cems interesebSi ar Sedis da arc is minda, qveynis axladfexadgmuli samarTlebrivi sistema davaziano.

_ romelic isedac Zalian dazianebulia saerTaSori-so doneze da kidev erTi _ ra bedi eweva Tqvens sarCels strasburgis sasamarTloSi?

_ Tundac imis gamo, rom es imiji ukve dazaralebulia, am mimarTulebiT damatebiTi nabijis gadadgmas veridebi. strasburgs rac Seexeba, Tu me ar gavgzavne ganacxadi, rom saqme ukan mimaqvs, is TavisTavad ar Sewydeba. amaze iusti-ciis saministroSi konsultacia minda gaviaro. me ar viTxov fulad kompensaciebsa da a.S., magram aq Cemi cxovrebis umZimesi 9 weli gamatarebines, radgan es interpoli Cems saqmianobaSi xels miSlida. warmoidgineT, sagadasaxado mrCeveli var da Cemi klienti, romelic CemTan Tavisi fi-nansuri sabuTebiT modis, ̀ guglSi~ Cems gvars wers da igebs, rom interpoli meZebs, anda saqme rom mqonoda mezobel qveyanaSi, nebismier sagzao policiels SeeZlo Cemi daka-veba. amiT mZime travma momayenes!

_ mere, am 9-wliani mZime cxovrebis gamo, konkretuli pirebis winaaRmdeg sarCelis Setanas ar apirebT?

_ Cemi gegma aseTia _ Tu me viwyeb aqtiur politikur cxovrebas, maSin albaT, aRar Rirs am adamianebis gver-diT TveobiTa da wlobiT sasamarTloebSi jdoma, vinc am vigindarebs Cems sasamarTlo procesebze cru mowmeebad dahyavdaT!

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cxadia, es kontrproduqtiuli daskvnaa. saqarTvelom es-esaa, pirvelad Tavis istoriaSi, xelisuflebis demokra-tiuli cvla ganaxorciela. SeiZleba, Cven ar varT iseTi gamocdilebi demokratiul marTvaSi, rogorc bevri dasav-luri qveyana. Tumca, asec rom iyos, vaSingtonSi misi viziti SeiZleba saukeTeso gza yofiliyo imaSi dasarwmuneblad, rom movlenebi marTlac, pozitiurad viTardeba.

Tumca, modiT, jer Post-is Tezisi ganvixiloT. mixeil saakaSvilis mzaoba, uari eTqva Tavis warsul qcevaze da daTanxmeboda amomrCevlis nebas, rogorc Cans, ise iyo aRqmuli, rogorc piroba imisa, rom sayovelTaod gaxmau-rebuli danaSaulebani aRar unda gamoiZion. arada, swored am danaSaulebma ganapiroba, ZiriTadad, koalicia „qarTuli ocnebis“ gamarjveba. imis gamo, rom demokratia Cveni amom-rCevlebisTvis axali da Zvirfasi ramaa, Cvens mTavrobas mtkiced aqvs gadawyvetili, gamoiZios mtkicebulebani im sayovelTaod cnobili Zaladobisa da borotmoqmedebisa, romlebic ase didi xnis ganmavlobaSi wamlavdnen Cvens politikur cxovrebas.

aseTi gamoZiebebis gadadeba qarTvelebis TvalSi komprometacia iqneboda im dasavluri Rirebulebebisa, romlis miRweviskenac Cven miviswrafviT. b-nma ivaniSvilma mkafiod ganacxada, rom is apirebs TanamSromlobas b-n saa-kaSvilTan da yofili Cinovnikebis winaaRmdeg, martooden imisTvis, rom isini yofil mTavrobas emxrobodnen, aranairi sanqciebi ar iqneba gamoyenebuli. sinamdvileSi, asobiT aseTi Cinovniki harmoniulad muSaobs axal mTavrobasTan. magram kargi samuSao urTierTobebis molodini ar unda gvafiqrebinebdes imas, rom ar unda iqnas gamoZiebuli im Cinovnikebis saqmeebi, romlebic sazogadoebis ndobis Se-laxvaSi arian eWvmitanilni.

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mTavroba araswor gzas adgas“ _ gamoTqmulia varaudi, rom radgan yofili mTavrobis warmomadgenlebs im danaSaulebisTvis, romlebic maT Tanamdebobaze yofnis dros Caidines, brali wauyenes, saqarTvelos premier-ministri biZina ivaniSvili ramdenadme uars ambobs demokratiaze manamde, vidre Tavisi uflebamosilebis ganxorcielebas Seudgeba, Sesabamisad, „mas vaSingtonSi ar unda iRebdnen“.

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ruseTis sagareo saqmeTa ministris, sergei lavrovis gancxadebiT, saqarTvelosa da ruseTis warmomadgen-lebis Sexvedra uaxloes momavalSi gaimarTeba.

`vexmaurebiT saqarT-velos premier-ministris mier specialuri warmo-madgenlis postze zurab

abaSiZis daniSvnas. davamyarebT masTan kontaqts da vimedovnebT, es Sexvedra raRacas gaarkvevs~, _ acxadebs lavrovi da dasZens, rom ruseTs saqa-rTvelosTan kontaqtze uari arasodes uTqvams, ar gamosula diplomatiuri urTierTobis gawyvetis iniciativiT, piriqiT, mzad iyo, moeZebna kompromisi problemebis gadawyvetisTvis.

ruseTis sagareo saqmeTa ministris, sergei lav-rovis gancxadebiT, ruseTi mzadaa, saqarTvelodan soflis meurneobis produqcia miiRos. ̀ ria novostis~ cnobiT, amis Sesaxeb lavrovma mTavrobis da ruseTis prezidentis administraciis wevrebTan Sexvedrisas ganacxada.

`rodesac Cven gvelaparakebian imis Sesaxeb, rom saqarTvelos kidev metad surs urTierTobebis gaumjobeseba, maSin Cven mzad varT, ganvixiloT da ganvaaxloT sasoflo sameurneo produqciis Semotana. ar unda dagvaviwydes, rom saqarTveloSi eleqtroenergia da gazi im kompaniis xaziT midis, romelSic ruseTi monawileobs. mzad varT gonivru-li, cxovrebidan da adamianebis interesebidan gamomdinare iniciativeba da ideebisTvis, magram Cven gvinda gavigoT, Tu ra konteqstSi gvTavazoben urTierTobebis normalizebas~, _ aRniSna lavrovma da aseve dasZina, rom moskovi mzadaa saqarTvelosTan regularuli sahaero mimosvlis sakiTxi ganixilos.

`cotam Tu icis, rom Cven daaxloebiT ori welia, rac Carteruli sahaero mimosvla aRvadgineT. cota xnis win Carteruli reisebis ricxvi gaizarda. mzad varT, regularuli sahaero mimosvlis sakiTxi gan-vixiloT~, _ ganacxada sagareo saqmeTa ministrma.

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politikur orbitaze axali politikuri sezoni naaxalwlevs gamocxaddeba. marTa-lia, es aris mzadeba saprezidento arCev-nebisTvis, magram aqtivoba politikuri sezonisTvis male daiwyeba. arsebul poli-tikur speqtrSi metamorfozebi, SesaZloa, iseT seriozul politikur Zalebsac Seexos, rogoric erTiani nacionaluri moZraobaa. `versiis~ wyaros informaciiT, `naciona-luri moZraoba~ male, Zvel poziciebsa da opoziciur gamocdilebas gaixsenebs da politikur kontrSetevaze gadava: amjerad, axali saxeliTa da axali saxeebiTac. amave kompetenturi wyaros informaciiT, ̀ nacio-naluri moZraoba~ ukve muSaobs imijmeik-erul principebze: partia saxelis Secvlas apirebs da es mxolod morfologiuri cv-lileba ar iqneba. P

partia, Zvel saxelTan damSvidobebiT, Zvel Secdomebsac Camoiwers da masSi Zvel saxeebTan erTad, axal lider-personebsac vixilavT. am ideas `nacmoZraobis~ liderebSi mxardamWerebic hyavs da mowinaaRmdegeebic. nawili miiCnevs, rom Zveli saxeli SecdomebTan asocirdeba da ,,axali demokratiuli moZraoba~ an sulac `moZraoba momavlisTvis~ an kidev sxva varianti unda dairqvan.

nawils ki miaCnia, rom axali saxeliT damkvidreba Sromatevadi procesia poli-tikur realobaSi. ukve dawyebulia Zalebis mobilizeba da partiuli uflebamosile-bebis gadanawileba, Tumca savaraudod, starts axali mZlavri opoziciuri partia, saxeSecvlili variantiT, axali wlis Sem-dgom aiRebs. is rom `nacionaluri moZ-raoba~ brZolis ufro mniSvnelovan etapze gadadis, ukve oficialurad daaanonsa partiis genmdivanma vano merabiSvilma. Sss-dan meore dakiTxvidan gamosuli aSkarad Tamami da politikurad motivrebuli iyo da, faqtobrivad, telekamerebTan axali frontis gaxsna oficialurad gamoacxada. ramdenadac merabiSvili `nacmoZraobis~ mainc yvelaze reitingul saxed iTvleba da momaval saprezidento kandidatTagan

erT-erT perspeqtiul variantad moiazreba, ivaniSvilis garemocva yvela saSualebiT ecdeba, yofili Sss ministri, romlis sax-elsac policiis warmatebuli reforma da kriminalis damarcxeba ukavSirdeba, aqtiuri politikuri asparezidan aRkve-Tos. amisTvis ki erT-erTi gamosavali cixea, amitomac erCian vanos gansakuTrebiT. merabiSvilis analogiuri gzavnili ukve gaakeTa givi TargamaZem, romelic yovelT-vis `nacionalebis trockid~ iTvleboda. `versiasTan~ saubrisas man gamokveTilad ganacxada, _ ,,axalgazrdobas gavixsenebT, oRond amas marto CveniT ver gavakeTebT, rogorc maSin ar gagvikeTebia marto _ xalxic CvenTan iyo! Tu aqamde miva saqme, xalxi am situacias Tavis xelSi aiRebs da maTac iseve davexmarebiT teqnikis codniT, rogorc Cvens megobrebs~.

saakaSvilis partia da yofili mmarTveli Zala opoziciis rangSi amjerad, am teqnikis daxvewaze muSaobs: teqnikasTan erTad, aucileblad daiwmindeba Sidapartiuli rgolebi. maT Soris partiis saxeebi, organizaciuli Tavmjdomareebi da

Stabis xelmZRvanelebi. gansakuTrebiT, Tbilisis mimarTulebiT, romelic yvelaze didi Cavardna iyo.

savaraudod, partiuli `Cistka~ da ierarqiuli daqveiTeba Seexeba mixeil maWavarians, romlis Zma _ vano maWavariani biZina ivaniSvilis aqtiuri mxardamWeri da gulSematkivaria da, erTi SexedviT, Zneli dasajerebelia, rom erTi ojaxis ori wevri aseT kardinalur ideologiur sxvaobas ganicdides. Tumca maWavariani gamonaklisi ar iqneba da `wmendis~ process `nacebSi~ bevri gaivlis.

`nacionaluri moZraoba~ axal politi-kur realobaSi erTaderTi Zala ar iqneba, romelic metamorfozas ganicdis. samoma-vlo politikuri ambiciebi aqvs nino bur-janaZes, irakli oqruaSvils, kaxa kukavas da kidev ramdenime partias. erTxans saubari politikur kuluarebSi imazec iyo, rom oqruaSvili, burjanaZe da kukava did gaer-Tianebas Seqmnidnen, Tumca jerjerobiT, mxareebi amas ar adastureben.

1 oqtombris arCevnebis Semdeg, erT-erT yvelaze idumal Temad rCeba, sad aris Salva naTelaSvili da ras apireben ̀ leibor-istebi~. ̀ versia~ ̀ leiboristebis~ erT-erT liders, soso SatberaSvils esaubra:

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_ anu, revanSi ar iqneba? _ revanSi, SurisZieba da skandali Cemi

cxovrebis stili ar aris. me Cemi saqmis keTeba miyvars.

_ 9 welia germaniaSi xarT, mandaa Tqve-ni ojaxi da saqme. ras gegmavs politikosi biZina giorgobiani _ saqarTveloSi Camova da cxovrebas Tavidan daiwyebs, Tu es ubralod, statusi iqneba TqvenTvis?

_ saerTod, cxovreba ukve 5-jer daviwye Tavidan da meeqvsed amis gakeTeba Zalian gaWirdeba. Cemi vaJi 3 wlis iyo, aq rom Camoviyvane, axla 20-isaa da aq swavlobs. Cemi gogona ki 15 wlisaa da berlinSi daibada. isini am kulturis Svilebi arian, aq swav-loben, aq hyavT megobrebi, ase rom, aqedan rom amovglijo da farTxa-furTxiT sadRac waviyvano, Znelad warmosadgenia. Tumca sxva valdebulebebi maqvs im adamianebis winaSe, vinc CemTan erTad ibrZoda saqarTvelos damoukideblobisTvis 80-iani wlebidan. me sxva valdebulebebi maqvs, Cems Svilebs _ sxva, amitom ar minda, Cems gareSemo yvelam Cemi cxovrebiT icxovros!

_ amitom gekiTxebiT, ras apirebT?

_ ras da, roca Cemi devna dasruldeba, pirvel rigSi, Cemi saxli da deda unda movinaxulo. deda marto cxovrobs da 9 welia ar minaxavs. Tu yvelaferma kargad Caiara, sadRac ianvris Sua ricxvebisTvis, dabrunebas vapireb. mere vnaxoT, rogor ganviTardeba movlenebi.

_ Tqveni saqmianobis gagrZelebaze gekiTxebiT _ dabrundebiT Tu ara poli-tikaSi da zviad ZiZiguris partiaSi?

_ batono soso, ra xdeba Tqvensken, sul daikargeT politikur orbitaze..

_ Cven, xom ici, eka, politikuri taim-au-ti gvaqvs aRebuli, aranair interviuebs ar viZleviT, ar gamovxatavT Cvens poziciebs. vakvirdebiT axal mmarTvel Zalas, vnaxoT, dapirebebs rogor Seusrulebs xalxs da axali wlis mere avlaparakdebiT, gavaqti-urdebiT Cveulebrivad..

_ saubari iyo, rom batoni Salva saqa-rTvelodan wavida..

_ ara, Salva aqaa, ofisSi, ki iyo wasuli venaSi, cota xniT. jerjerobiT, Cven aq varT. ase SeiZleba partiis sxva wevrebsac mogviwios wasvla. partiaSi vikribebiT xolme, vsaubrobT da male sajarodac av-laparakdebiT..

_ aris saubari, rom `leiboristuli partiis~ pereregistracia SeiZleba mox-des da naTelaSvili aRar iyos lideri..

_ aseTi informacia Cemamde ar mosula.. batoni Salva iyo da rCeba Cveni partiis liderad.

_ saubari imazecaa, rom saxeebi tove-ben partias..

_ a r a , n a m d v i l a d , j e r j e r o b i T , davdivarT ofisSi da isev is xalxi varT, vinc aqamdec viyaviT.. ase rom, axali wlis Semdgom, Cven mZlavr opoziciur aqtivobas daviwyebT.

_ me sul politikaSi viyavi! aqtiuri politika Cemi cxovrebis wesia. TiTqmis 25 welia politikaSi var da avad Tu kargad, SevZeli da qarTul politikur cxovrebas emigraciidanac vexmarebodi. ase rom, arc aq davkargulvar, Cemi qveynisTvis, rogorc politikosi, rac Zalian rTuli iyo. roca analizs vakeTeb, vxvdebi, rom sxvanairad ar SemiZlia, amitom ver uarvyof, ar dav-brundebi politikur scenaze-meTqi.

albaT, ar gamomiva, CemTvis wynarad vicxovro da ar minda, Tavi movityuo. me saqarTveloSi davbrundebi, Sevxvdebi Cems megobrebs, Camovyalibdebi, ra nabiji gadavdga da saiT wavide _ diax, me davbrundebi politikaSi da viqnebi `konservatori~! me var adamiani, romelic TxemiT terfamde `konservatoria~, amitom sxva partiuli kuTvnilebisa, ubralod, ar SemiZlia viyo. CemTvis mTavari dro warsulia, saidanac me Zalasa da energias viReb!

_ axla raRa gaaCereb ̀ nacionalebs~ _ saqarTveloSi giorgobianis saxiT, war-sulis kidev erTi gadmonaSTi brundebao.

_ egeni Cems warsuls Tvals Tu gadaav-leben da kargad Seiswavlian, naxaven, rom is arc ise cudia.

_ Tumca, maTi TqmiT, kargad rom Seiswavles, amitomac aRmoCndiT germani-aSi.

_ iciT, ra, maTac movuwodeb, rom im warsulSi dabrundnen, saidanac me movdivar da iqneb, xelaxla aidgan fexi da adamianebs daemsgavson!

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saqarTvelos parlamentis Tavmjdomaris, daviT usu-faSvilis gancxadebiT, koalicia „qarTuli ocnebidan“ romeli politikuri Zalebic moaxerxeben sazogadoebis meti nawilis darwmunebas, momaval arCevnebze im Zalas eqneba meti warmateba, Tumca jer naadrevia momavali arCevnebisTvis „qarTuli ocnebis“ konfiguraciaze saubari.

rogorc usufaSvilma Tavisufali demokratebis yrilobis Semdeg, JurnalistebTan saubrisas aRniSna, gasulma saparlamento arCevnebma qarTul politikur speqtrSi seriozuli cvlilebebi Seitana.

„am cvlilebebidan gamomdinare, romeli politikuri Zalebi moaxerxeben axali energiis mozidvas da darCenas politikur asparezze, amis Tqma me ar SemiZlia.

vin iqneba opoziciaSi, rogori konfiguracia eqneba TviTmmarTvelobisa Tu momaval saparlamento arCevnebze „qarTul ocnebas“, amaze saubari jer naadrevia. koalicia `qarTul ocnebas~ mravalpartiuli demokratiuli sistema qveyanaSi unda qveynisTvis, sazogadoebisTvis da ara mxolod sakuTari TavisTvis. ase rom, Tavisufal politikur konkurenciaSi, romeli politikuri Zalebic moaxerxeben sazogadoebis meti nawilis darwmunebas, maT eqnebaT warmateba~, _ aRniSna usufaSvilma.

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gia uCava: `radgan prokuraturam CemTvis ver moicala, `versiaSi~

micemuli Cemi interviuebi prokuraturam miiRos Cvenebad!~

ori-sami dRea, badri biwaZe politikuri devnilia. es konkretulad erTi adamianis, gia uCavas damsaxurebaa, romlis meore, amjerad namdvili aRiarebiTi Cveneba biwaZis saqmeSi Caido da beselias komisiisTvis erT-erTi ganmsazRvreli argumenti gaxda biwaZis politikuri niSniT devnilad gamocxadebisTvis. ratom moxda ise, rom nawamebi uCava politpatimari ar aris da badri biwaZe, romelic 26 maisis mere avstriaSi uzrunvelad cxovrobs, politdevnilia?! mokled, amaze bevric iTqva da bevric daiwera, Tumca ar viciT Tavad gia uCavas pozicia _ marTla Segzavnes Tu ara saxalxo krebaSi situaciis asarevad, vis da risTvis wvrTnida sinamdvileSi generali, gamoiyenes Tu ara erTma mxarem jer biwaZis winaaRmdeg, axla meore mxarem biwaZis dasaxmareblad _ `versiis~ ramdenime kiTxvebs moSimSile patimari, generali gia uCava gldanis merve sapyrobiledan pasuxobs da prokuraturas misi intervius oficialur Cvenebad gamoyenebas sTxovs:

_ saxalxo krebaSi ̀ SeficulTa~ mosamza-deblad mixvediT, CvenebaSi ki yvebiT, rom maTTan erTad SeiaraRebuli Tavdasxmebi mzaddeboda xelisuflebis gadatrialebis mizniT. sinamdvileSi, ras saqmianobdiT `krebaSi~ da iyo Tu ara Tqveni iq misvla irakli baTiaSvilis idea?

_ 2011 wlis 4 ianvars batonma irakli ba-TiaSvilma SemomTavaza, koordinacia gamewia e.w. qomagTa institutisTvis, rac `Sefi-culebad~ Seqmnamde gakeTda. `Seficulebis~ Seqmnis mizani gaxldaT: 1. farTomasStabian aqciebamde saxalxo krebis ofisebSi mori-geoba. 2. moZravi aqciebis Catareba (aqciebi avtomobilebiT) 3. saagitacio masalebis gavrceleba. 4. aqciis teritoriaze provo-kaciebis sawinaaRmdego prevenciis Catareba. kvebisa da samedicino daxmarebis organizeba aqciis monawileTaTvis. 5. biotualetebis organizeba da aqciis teritoriis dasuf-Taveba. 6. aqciis monawileTa dacva aqciis mimdinareobisas zonder-jgufebisgan. sxva araviTari amocana ar gaaCndaT da arc sxva raime miTiTeba hqoniaT.

Zaladobrivi gziT xelisuflebis Secv-laze arc saubari yofila, arc miTiTeba, arc erT doneze. es fiqradac aravis hqonia da me, piradad, amas veTanxmebodi. Sesabamisi iyo Cemi qmedebebic – msgavsi miTiTeba arasdros gamicia.

_ Tqven aqciidan gagitaces da Tavad es faqti ucnaurad gamoiyureboda _ `Sefi-culebiT~ iyaviT garSemortymuli, roca manqaniT wagiyvanes. gavrcelda azri, rom `krebaSi~ `nacionalebis~ Segzavnilic ki iyaviT.

_ rac Seexeba gatacebas, 2011 wlis 22 maiss, dilis 6 saaTisTvis irakli baTiaS-vili tribunaze imyofeboda. vTxove, aqciis mimdebare teritoriis dasasufTaveblad cocxebi SemoetanaT, ukan mobrunebulma, iqve dagdebuli plastmasis boTli aviRe da urnisken wavedi. or nabijSi, teqnikur universitetsa da sacxovrebel korpuss Soris mdebare quCidan Semovarda muqi feris `folksvageni~ da Cems win gaCerda. iqidan 3 adamiani gadmoxta da wina savarZelze Semag-des. erT-erTi zemodan damajda. am dros mZRols manqana Cauqra da aSkarad mesmoda xmebi, rogor urtyamdnen manqanas aqciis monawileebi, Tumca verafers vxedavdi... rac Seexeba raRac garigebas _ araviTari ga-rigeba ar yofila! erTi axalgazrda maxlda, romlis saxelic ar maxsovs. Cems garSemo sxva arcerTi `Seficuli~ ar yofila. rogorc me vici, Tqveni TvaliT gixilavT, rogor gamo-miyvanes aqciidan manqaniT da sxva manqanaSi gadamsves.

nino komaxiZe

politika

_ saxalxo kreba da nino burjanaZe moRalate generals Cvenebis micemis gamo geZaxdnen...

_ me rom `saxalxo krebaSi~ Segzavnili vyofiliyavi, gana, dResac cixeSi vijdebodi?!

_ ambobdiT, xelisuflebas nino bur-janaZis interesi hqonda da ara _ badri biwaZiso. rogor moxda ise, rom saboloo jamSi, swored Tqveni Cvenebis safuZvelze gamocxadda biwaZeze samarTlebrivi devna?

_ ratom hqondaT nino burjanaZis da ara badri biwaZis interesi?! es kiTxva `naciona-lur moZraobas~ dausviT. rac Seexeba imas, ratom gamocxadda badri biwaZeze samarT-lebrivi devna da ratom maiZulebdnen, Cveneba mis winaaRmdeg mimeca _ maT Cemi piriT sWird-ebodaT es Cveneba, rogorc nino burjanaZeze zewolis meqanizmi.

_ Tqvens Cvenebas Tqveni arc erTi ad-vokati ar eswreboda, gavrcelda xma, rom es Cveneba dagiweres da dagazepirebines. realurad, ra TqviT aseTi am CvenebaSi, ro-melic bolomde aravis unaxavs?

_ amJamad, detalebi namdvilad ar maxsovs, Tumca

Cems CvenebaSi ZiriTadi aqcenti imazea gamaxvilebuli, TiTqos, badri biwaZe da me `Seficulebs~ policiisTvis winaaRmdegobis gasawevad vamzadebdiT. vadastureb, rom badri biwaZis sasamarTlomde ramdenime saaTiT adre, prokurorma sapyrobiles reJimis ufrosis, oleg facacias kabinetSi ramdenjerme wamakiTxa `Cemi Cveneba~, amomawerina gvarebi, romlebic viTom, me mivamagre da Sevaxvedre badri biwaZes policielebisTvis provokaciis mosawyobad. sinamdvileSi, es xalxi saerTod ar Sexvedria biwaZes! maT davalebuli hqondaT scenis `traileris~ momsaxureba. es is xalxi iyo, vinc mere Cemi da biwaZis winaaRmdeg Tavad misca Cveneba.

_ Tqveni daWeris mere, CemTvis cno-bilia, rom burjanaZis mxaresTan dakav-Sirebas axali xelisuflebis mosvlamde cdilobdiT. mas uTvlidiT, simarTles vityvio. rogor fiqrobT, aqamde ratom ar moindoma burjanaZem badri biwaZis reabilitacia?

_ SesaZlebelia, es informacia saerTod ar mivida burjanaZemde (ar uTxres). verafers getyviT. Tu ar icodnen Cveni mzaobis Sesaxeb, maSin rogor daiwyebdnen reabilitaciis process.

_ axla ras elodebiT prokurorisgan, romelsac, jerjerobiT, Tqvens gancxade-baze, es saqme Tavidan gamoiZios, aranairi reagireba ar mouxdenia, imis miuxedavad, rom SesaZloa, daTa axalaias winaaRmdeg realuri mowme aRmoCndeT?

_ albaT, prokuratura Zalian dakave-bulia! me realuri mowme da dazaralebuli var kriminaluri xelisuflebisgan, romlis saTaveSi saakaSvili idga! Cems mimarT es

ukanonobebi daTa axalaiam, soso TofuriZem da kud-is uwyebis sxva TanamSromlebma dageg-mes da ganaxorcieles.

radgan prokuraturam Cemamde mosasvlelad ver moicala, axla me miwevs Cvenebis micema presis meSveobiT. Cemi da Cemi advokatis, kaxaber mumlaZis mier `versiaSi~ micemuli interviuebi prokuraturam miiRos (CaTvalos) Cvenebad!

_ Tu burjanaZeca da ̀ krebac~ aRiareben, rom Tqveni Cveneba wamebiTaa mopovebuli, maSin ratom gaxda politdevnili badri biwaZe da Tqveni, rogorc politpatimris gvari, nino burjanaZem eka beselias komi-sias ratom ar gadasca sxva 7 gvarTan erTad?

_ Tu nino burjanaZe da ̀ kreba~ acxadeben, rom Cveneba Cemgan wamebiTaa miRebuli, ra-sac mec vadastureb, maSin mec ratom ar var politpatimarTa siaSi?! ar vici! Tumca Tavs ukanono patimrad ufro miviCnev.

_ mas mere, rac cixeSi xarT, Tqven da dacvis programaSi ayvanili Tqveni ojaxi aravis moukiTxavs. ratom miatova yvelam gia uCava?

_ Cemi ojaxi mZevlad iyo ayvanili da maTi yvela kontaqti kontroldeboda kud-is TanamSromlebis mier, romlebic 5 Tvis gan-mavlobaSi, Cems ojaxSi iyvnen Sesaxlebulni. amis gamo, axloblebic ki SeSinebulebi iyvnen, magram e.w. dacvis moxsnis Semdeg, axloblebis urTierToba Cvens ojaxTan Cveulebriv reJim-Si aRdga. `krebasa~ da politikur liderebs ki namdvilad ar moukiTxavT Cemi ojaxis mdgomareoba.

_ da nino burjanaZes ratom gaaxsendiT mxolod xelisuflebis Secvlis mere? aris Tu ara es garigeba maT Soris da emsaxureba Tu ara erTaderT mizans, risTvisac Tqven gamogiyenes _ badri biwaZis reabilitacias?

_ gaurigda Tu ara nino burjanaZe axal xelisuflebas, eg me saidan unda vicode? miuxedavad imisa, rom me var ukanonod dakave-buli da Cemgan Zaladobrivi meTodebiT aqvT miRebuli maTTvis sasurveli Cveneba, amis safuZvelze mainc gamasamarTles da 2 welic momisajes! me ar viTxov Cems dauyovnebliv gaTavisuflebas. amisTvis mTavar prokura-turaSi gancxadeba gvaqvs Setanili da minda, Cemi udanaSauloba Tavisufal sasamarTloSi davamtkico. Tumca moqmedi kanonmdeblobis Tanaxmad, Tu msjavrdebuls 6 Tve aqvs darCe-nili, mas SeuZlia, vadaze adre gaTavisufleba moiTxovos, razec sityvieri uari miTxres da werilobiT pasuxs ar maZleven. Tu ganixiles, uari ratom miTxres, sababi ra aqvT? Tu ar ganuxilavT, ratom ar ixilaven? wina xelisu-flebam sababad moimizeza qulebis raodenoba _ mokled, isini Cems gaSvebas ar apirebdnen. xolo axali xelisufleba ratom aWianurebs Cemi sakiTxis gadawyvetas, gaurkvevelia da pasuxs viTxov! Tu 1-el seqtembramde saakaSvilis piradi patimari viyavi (radgan sxva veravin gascemda udanaSaulo generlis dapatimrebisa da misgan, Zalis gamoyenebiT, sasurveli Cvenebis miRebis brZanebas), axla axali xelisuflebis pirobebSi visi piradi patimari var?!

patimari generali SimSilobas agrZelebs da gasaidumloebuli Cvenebis detalebs ixsenebs

daviT kakabaZis winaaRmdeg

saqme 156-e muxlis meore

nawilis `a~ qvepunqtiT da 118-e

muxlis mesame nawiliT aRiZra

prokuraturam vanis munici-palitetis sakrebulos Tavmjdo-maris, daviT kakabaZis winaaRmdeg saqme sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsis 156-e muxlis meore nawilis `a~ qvepunqtiT da 118-e muxlis mesame nawiliT aRZra.

amis Sesaxeb mTavari prokuratu-ris mier gavrcelebul gancxadeba-Sia naTqvami, romelsac ucvlelad gTavazobT.

`imereTis, raWa-leCxumisa da qvemo svaneTis samxareo mTavar sammarTveloSi moqalaqe mamuka SaraSeniZis devnisa da jgufurad Cadenili janmrTelobis ganz-rax dazianebis faqtze saqmis gamoZieba daiwyo. gamoZiebiT dadginda, rom 2012 wlis 23 seqtem-bers, cixis skandaluri faqtebis gamoqveynebis Semdeg, moqalaqe mamuka SaraSeniZem vanSi, sazoga-doebrivi TavSeyris adgilze, xmamaRla gaaprotesta es faqti. mamuka SaraSeniZis mier kritiku-li mosazrebis gamoTqmis Sesaxeb cnobili gaxda `nacionaluri moZraobis~ adgilobrivi aqtiv-istebisaTvis. imave dRes, daaxloe-biT 21:00 saaTze, mamuka SaraSeniZe miiyvanes vanSi, `erTiani nacio-naluri moZraobis~ vanis ofisis SenobaSi, sadac erT-erT samuSao oTaxSi, vanis municipalitetis sakrebulos Tavmjdomarem daviT kakabaZem, mamuka leJavam da sxva pirebma (daaxloebiT aTamde pirma) gamoTqmuli mosazrebisa da saku-Tari poziciis xmamaRla dafiq-sirebis gamo, sastikad scemes es ukanaskneli. gautexes cxviri, Caumtvries nekni da miayenes sxe-ulis dazianeba janmrTelobis xangrZlivi moSliT.

2012 wlis 8 dekembers, daviT kakabaZes waredgina brali saqa-rTvelos sisxlis samarTlis kod-eqsis 156-e muxlis meore nawilis `a~ qvepunqtiT (devna ZaladobiT) da 118-e muxlis mesame nawiliT (janmrTelobis ganzrax naklebad mZime dazianeba Cadenili jgufu-rad), rac iTvaliswinebs Tavisu-flebis aRkveTas 3 wlamde (devna ZaladobiT) da 3 wlidan 5 wlamde. (janmrTelobis ganzrax naklebad mZime dazianeba Cadenili jgufu-rad). marTalia, arsebobs daviT kakabaZis dakavebis kanonieri safuZveli, magram humanuri prin-cipebidan gamomdinare, prokura-tura apirebs, mimarTos sasamarT-los aRkveTis RonisZiebis saxiT giraos SerCevis Sesaxeb. daviT kakabaZe sami dRis ganmavlobaSi iwva saavadmyofoSi, Tumca saqmeSi devs eqimis mier gacemuli cnoba, rom is raime seriozuli daa-vadebiT ar yofila moTavsebuli stacionarSi da masTan sagamoZie-bo moqmedebebis Catareba SesaZle-belia. gamoZieba sasamarTloSi misi dakavebuli Tanamdebobidan gadayenebis sakiTxs daayenebs~.

`pirveli~

eqskluzivi cixidan

#141 (748) 10 - 11 dekemberi, 2012 weli6

ekonomika

daviT onofriSvili dazRvevis saxelmwifo zedamxedvelobis

samsaxurs politikuri motivaciiT qmnis

ra unda biZina ivaniSvils _ sadazRvevo sferos realuri kontroli, Tu erovnuli

bankis mizanmimarTuli ngreva?!

saqarTvelos parlamentis wevris, safinanso-sabiujeto komitetis Tavmjdomaris, daviT onofriSvilis iniciativiT, dazRvevis saxelmwifo kompania iqmneba. moqmedi kanonmdeblobiT, sadazRvevo kompaniebs zedamxedvelobas uwevs saqarTvelos erovnuli banki, magram cvlilebis mixedviT, erovnul banks es ufleba CamoerTmeva da sadazRvevo seqtors regulirebas damoukidebeli, oRond saxelmwifo kompania gauwevs. dazRvevis saxelmwifo maregulirebeli kompaniis Sesaqmnelad, saxelmwifo biujetidan 700 000 lari gamoiyofa. axal iniciativaze msjeloba saqarTvelos parlamentSi mimdinare kviraSi gaimarTeba, xolo kanoni ZalaSi 2013 wlis 1 martidan Seva.

axali sakanonmdeblo iniciativiT, cvli-lebebi Seva saqarTvelos organul kanonSi erovnuli bankis Sesaxeb, kanonSi dazRvevis Sesaxeb, aseve kanonSi mikrosafinanso orga-nizaciebis Sesaxeb da kanonproeqtSi ukanono Semosavlis legalizaciis aRkveTis xelSewyo-bis Sesaxeb.

`saqarTvelos erovnul banks miniWebuli aqvs sruli uflebamosileba, zedamxedvelo-ba gauwios komerciuli bankebis, arasabanko sadepozito dawesebulebebis, mikrosafinan-so organizaciebis, arasaxelmwifo sapensio sqemebis damfuZneblebis, fasiani qaRal-debis damoukidebeli registratorebis, sabrokero kompaniebis (garda sadazRvevo brokerebisa), safondo birJis, centraluri depozitaris, specializebuli depozi-taris, aqtivebis mmarTveli kompaniebis, an-gariSvaldebuli sawarmoebis, sagadasaxado sistemis operatorisa da sagadasaxado momsaxurebis provaideris saqmianobas am organuli kanonisa da saqarTvelos sxva normatiuli aqtebis safuZvelze~.

ganmartebiT baraTSi aRniSnulia, rom es kanonproeqti SemuSavebulia qveyanaSi sadazRvevo sferos damoukidebeli, saxelm-wifo maregulireblis Sesaqmnelad: `kanon-proeqtis miRebis mizezia, saqarTvelos erovnuli bankis saqveuwyebo struqturuli qvedanayofis, dazRvevis zedamxedvelobis ganyofilebis reorganizacia damoukidebel saxelmwifo maregulireblad (rogorc es miRebulia, msoflios yvela ganviTa-rebul da ganviTarebad qveynebSi), misi amocanebisa da funqciebis mkafio Camoya-libeba, romelic upasuxebs Tanamedrove ekonomikur Sexedulebebs, romlis winaSec aris dRes saqarTvelos sadazRvevo bazari (industria). cnobisaTvis: dazRvevis sferos saxelmwifo zedamxedvelobis funqcias 1997 wlidan 2007 wlamde, am miznisTvis Se-qmnili damoukidebeli saxelmwifo struq-tura _ saqarTvelos dazRvevis saxelmwifo zedamxedvelobis samsaxuri axorcielebda, romlis kanonmdebloba germaniis, safran-geTis da sxva wamyvani qveynebis daxmarebiT iqmneboda~.

2007 wels, rodesac safinanso zedamxedv-elobis saagento Camoyalibda, regulirebisa da kontrolis TvalsazrisiT, masSi erT-maneTTan sruliad SeuTavsebeli _ sadaz-Rvevo, sabanko da fasiani qaRaldebis dargebi gaerTianda. daviT onofriSvili azustebs, rom aman mniSvnelovani problemebi Seqmna sadazRvevo saqmianobaSi, amitom kanonpro-eqtis mizania, saxelmwifo damoukidebelma

maregulirebelma uzrunvelyos sadazRvevo seqtoris damoukidebloba, stabiluroba da gamWvirvaloba, aseve xeli Seuwyos qveyanaSi sadazRvevo industriis ekonomikur zrdas. ganaxorcielos sadazRvevo bazris monawilee-bis (damzRvevi, dazRveuli, mosargeble, mz-Rveveli, gadamzRveveli) interesebis dacva da meTodologiur-sakonsultacio saqmianobis srulyofa sadazRvevo sferoSi. mas Semdeg, rac es cvlilebebi ZalaSi Seva, sadazRvevo organizaciebisa da gadamzRveveli kompaniebis saqmianobaze, saqarTvelos erovnuli bankis sazedamxedvelo funqciebi gauqmdeba. samagi-erod, Seiqmneba sajaro samarTlis iuridiuli piri (ssip) _ „saqarTvelos dazRvevis sax-elmwifo zedamxedvelobis samsaxuri“. kanon-proeqtis Tanaxmad, sadazRvevo saqmianobis licenzias swored axladSeqmnili saxelmwifo samsaxuri gascems:

`saqarTvelos dazRvevis saxelmwifo zedamxedvelobis samsaxuris funqciebia: dazRvevis sferoSi saxelmwifo politikis gatareba, sadazRvevo bazris finansuri stabilurobisaTvis xelis Sewyoba, sa-kuTari kompetenciis farglebSi momx-marebelTa uflebebis dacva, sadazRvevo organizaciebis qmedunarianobisa da gadax-disunarianobis uzrunvelyofa, konkuren-tunariani garemos Seqmna. am funqciebis gansaxorcieleblad ki dazRvevis saxelm-wifo samsaxuri sadazRvevo saqmianobas ganazogadebs, sakuTari kompetenciis farglebSi normatiul da meTodologiur bazas Seqmnis. rac mTavaria, SeimuSavebs axal kanonproeqtebs, an ukve arsebulSi cvlile-bebsa da damatebebs Seitans~.

kanonproeqtis mixedviT, saqarTvelos dazRvevis saxelmwifo zedamxedvelobis sam-saxuri uflebamosilia: gasces da gaauqmos sadazRvevo saqmianobis licenzia; ganaxor-cielos sadazRvevo brokeris registracia da registraciis gauqmeba; zedamxedveloba gauwios mzRvevlis mier normatiuli da meTodologiuri dokumentaciiT gaTval-iswinebuli moTxovnebis dacvas da Seamowmos isini, Seamowmos buRaltruli aRricxvis dokumentebi, finansuri angariSgebis kompo-nentebi da sxva masalebi, risTvisac SeuZlia mzRvevlisgan gamoiTxovos da miiRos nebi-smieri informacia sakuTari kompetenciis farglebSi; mzRvevelis mimarT gamoiyenos am kanoniT gansazRvruli sanqciebi; awarmoos mzRvevelTa da sadazRvevo brokerTa re-estri; gansazRvros mzRvevlis kapitalis sax-eebi, sadazRvevo saqmianobis ganxorcielebis yvela etapze maTi minimaluri odenoba da gaangariSebis wesi; daadginos sadazRvevo rezervebis saxeobaTa gansazRvrisa da Seqm-nis, agreTve sadazRvevo rezervebis dasafa-ravad dasaSvebi aqtivebisa da maTi struqtu-

ris gansazRvris wesi; daadginos sadazRvevo organizaciisTvis Sida aRricxvis moTxovnebi; gansazRvros mzRvevlis aqtivebsa da aRebul valdebulebebs Soris zRvruli Tanafardoba; gansazRvros mzRvevlis kapitalsa da val-debulebebs Soris zRvruli Tanafardoba; gansazRvros mzRvevelis gadaxdisunarianobis marJis gaangariSebis wesi; Seqmnas meTodolo-giuri da sarekomendacio dokumentacia sadaz-Rvevo sakiTxebis Sesaxeb; SeimuSaos da miiRos normatiuli aqtebi sadazRvevo saqmianobis regulirebis Sesaxeb; moiTxovos da miiRos informacia mzRvevelis, rogorc uSualo, ise beneficiari mesakuTreebis Sesaxeb; moiTxovos da miiRos informacia mzRvevelis kapitalis warmoSobis Sesaxeb; daadginos mzRvevelis finansuri da statistikuri angariSgebis formebi da maTi wardgenis procedura; iTa-namSromlos ucxo qveynis sazedamxedvelo or-ganosTan sakuTari kompetenciis farglebSi, rac SeiZleba moicavdes informaciis gacvlas da urTierTSeTanxmebis memorandumis dade-bas; gamoaqveynos sadazRvevo bazris Sesaxeb statistikuri informacia; daadginos sadaz-Rvevo brokeris registraciis wesi; daadginos mzRvevelis likvidaciisa da gakotrebis saqmis warmoebis wesi.

dazRvevis saxelmwifo zedamxedvelobis samsaxuri 1997 wels Seiqmna da 2007 wlamde funqcionirebda. am samsaxuris Seqmnis erT-erTi iniciatori, `axali memarjveneebis~ ekonomikuri mimarTulebis xelmZRvaneli levan kalandaZe iyo, romelic 1997 wlidan 2000 wlamde, saxelmwifo zedamxedvelobis samsax-uris ufrosis moadgiled muSaobda.

`TavisTavad, usafuZvloa msjeloba, kargi iyo, Tu cudi is, rom sadazRvevo kompaniebis zedamxedvelobas saqarTvelos erovnuli banki axorcielebda. cxadia, arc imis mtkiceba SeiZleba, rom dazRvevis sax-elmwifo samsaxuris SeqmniT, aucileblad raRac gafuWdeba da es maincdamainc, ko-rufciis wyaro iqneba. mTavaria, xmamaRla vTqvaT, saiTken midis qveyana _ saxelmwifo maregulirebeli samsaxurebis gamsxvilebi-sken, Tu piriqiT, diversifikaciisken. nebis-mier SemTxvevaSi, meti konkretikaa saWiro, rac kanonproeqtis iniciatorisgan jer ar momismenia~, _ ambobs ̀ versiasTan~ saubrisas levan kalandaZe.

savaraudod, am tipis konkretul msjelo-bas parlamentis Sesabamis komitetSi mxolod mas Semdeg movismenT, rac axali sakanonmdeblo iniciativis ganxilvis procedura daiwyeba. nebismier SemTxvevaSi, mizezi, ris gamoc 2007 wels, dazRvevis saxelmwifo zedamxedvelobis samsaxuri gauqmda da es funqcia erovnul banks gadaeca is iyo, rom maSindelma xelisuflebam biznesi saxelmwifos zedmeti regulaciebis-gan gaaTavisufla. Tumca imis gamo, rom Tavis

mxriv, sadazRvevo kompania safinanso insti-tutis erT-erT saxes warmoadgens, aucile-belia misi regulireba. sabanko-safinanso institutebis saxeebia komerciuli bankebi, sadazRvevo, aseve safinanso da sakredito kompaniebi. Sesabamisad, sruliad logikuria da ekonomikis TeoriaSic xazgasmiTaa aRniS-nuli, rom sasurvelia, yvela am sferos swored erovnuli banki aregulirebdes.

levan kalandaZe ambobs, rom saqarTvelos erovnuli banki sakmaod kargad axorcielebda sadazRvevo sferos regulirebas, radgan qvey-nis mTavarma bankma SeimuSava da daxvewa mTeli rigi normatiuli aqtebi. Sesabamisad, imis mtkiceba, rom swored erovnuli bankis regu-lirebis qveS gaCnda problemebi dazRvevis bazarze, am yvelafris ugulebelyofaa. Tumca levan kalandaZe xazgasmiT aRniSnavs, rom mTavaria, sazogadoebam gaigos, ra uflebrivi mdgomareoba eqneba axladSeqmnil saxelmwifo zedamxedvelobis samsaxurs.

zogadad, evropis qveynebSi miRebulia, rom sadazRvevo sferos damoukidebeli samsaxuri aregulirebs, romelic zog qveyanaSi finansTa, zogan _ ekonomikis saministroebis, zogan ki _ erovnuli bankis qolgis qveS funqcioni-rebs. safinanso-sabiujeto komitetis Tavm-jdomare da am cvlilebis iniciatori daviT onofriSvili, kanonproeqtis ganmartebiT baraTSi aRniSnavs, rom dazRvevis saxelm-wifo zedamxedvelobis samsaxuri germaniisa da safrangeTis modelis gaTvaliswinebiT iqmneba. arada, levan kalandaZe ambobs, rom imyofeboda germaniaSi da Zalian kargad icis, dazRvevis ra modeli moqmedebs iq. misi germaniaSi vizitis mizani swored is iyo, rom saqarTveloSi, dazRvevis saxelmwifo zedamxedvelobis samsaxuri Seqmniliyo. sx-vaTa Soris, germaniis dazRvevis saxelmwifo zedamxedvelobis samsaxuri, absoluturad damoukidebeli organoa, romelic finansTa saministros SemadgenlobaSi funqcionirebs:

`ratomRac mgonia, rom dazRvevis sax-elmwifo regulirebis samsaxuris Seqmnas politikuri suni asdis, radgan es zustad is sferoa, romelsac axali xelisuflebis ekonomikuri gundi ver akontrolebs. imis gamo, rom sadazRvevo sferos erovnuli banki aregulirebs, xelisuflebas ar gaaCnia uflebamosileba, aq sakuTari kadri daniS-nos, Sesabamisad, am gadawyvetilebas ufro politikuri elferi dakravs, vidre Sedegze orientirebuli da ekonomikurad dasabuTe-buli analizi~, _ miaCnia levan kalandaZes.

Znelia imis mtkiceba, kargia am tipis zedamxedvelobis samsaxuris Seqmna, Tu ara, magram erTi ram aSkaraa _ nebismier Sem-TxvevaSi, aseTi gadawyvetilebis miRebas teqnikur-ekonomikuri dasabuTeba sWird-eba. winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, piradad me, iseTi STabeWdileba mrCeba, rom xelisufleba Seg-nebulad cdilobs erovnuli bankis funqciis Sesustebas, raTa avtomaturad dadges qveynis mTavari bankis prezidentis, giorgi qadagiZis impiCmentis sakiTxi. motivi sruliad naTelia _ saqarTvelos premier-ministrma am postze `qarTu bankis~ generaluri direqtori, nodar javaxiSvili waradgina.

versianiusi

maia miSelaZe

ekonomika

ekonomika

`saqarTveloSi eleqtroenergiis tarifi 11 TeTrs ar unda aRematebodes~

energetikuli eqspertebis gaTvlebiT, qveyanaSi eleqtroenergiis tarifis Semcireba 6,64 TeTriTaa SesaZle-beli. rogorc energetikosebi ganmartaven, saqarTveloSi eleqtroenergiis tarifi 11 TeTrs ar unda aRematebodes. energetikosebma, arasamTavrobo seqtorTan erTad, qveyanaSi eleqtroenergiis tarifis detaluri kalkulacia ukve moaxdines da Sedegebs uaxloes xanebSi mTavrobas gaacnoben.

„SevjerdiT tarifis Semcirebis Sesaxeb, romlis marJac mTlian tarifSi 6,64 TeTrs Seadgens, anu mo-saxleobis zeda zRvari gadasaxdeli iqneba 8,20 TeTri dRg-s gareSe. rac Seexeba dRg-s is ukve damokidebulia saxelmwifoze, mTavrobaze, Tu ramdenad Seamcirebs. yvela SemTxvevaSi arsebuli tarifi 11 TeTrs ar unda aRematebodes~, _ acxadebs „energetikis kavSiris Tavmjdomare miron fircxveliani.

SegaxsenebT, rom energetikisa da bunebrivi resursebis ministrma ukve ganacxada, rom tarifis Sesaxeb detalebi momavali kviris dasawyisSi gaxdeba cnobili.

`ji-eiC-eni~

#141 (748) 10 - 11 dekemberi, 2012 weli 7

eqskluziuri versia

_ is saqmeebi, rac prokuraturaSi Sevi-taneT, rigiTi rom yofiliyo, am TemebiT sazogadoebas arc Sevawuxebdi, magram gamoZiebis sworad Catarebis SemTxvevaSi, erTi mxriv, zurab adeiSvilze, meore mxriv _ merabiSvilze SeiZleba gavideT. arc partiis dabrunebaze visaubreb bevrs, ubralod, Catarda ukanono yriloba, moxda ukanono registracia da daiwyo sasamarTlo procesebis seria, sadac Tvalis erTi gadav-lebiTac Canda, rogor koordinirebulad moqmedebdnen agentebi, mosamarTleebi da prokurorebi.

_ ratom, radgan sergo javaxiZem sa-samarTlo mogigoT?

_ ra momigo, ro? am zafxulSi, erTdrou-lad, ori aseTi gadawyvetileba miiRes: Turme, roman kusians ar hqonda ufleba, `qarTuli ocnebisTvis~ 60 000 lari See-wira, me ki Cemi partiis vali, 300 000 lari SeiZleba mqonoda, rac kanoniT daSvebul zRvarze bevrad metia. Tu Tqven gindaT, saubari iqiT waiyvanoT, TiTqos es aris dapirispireba Cemsa da sergo javaxiZes So-ris, maSin axlave davasruloT interviu! am saqmeSi zurab adeiSvilis pasuxismgeblobis sakiTxi ikveTeba.

iusticiis ministris pasuxisgebaSi micema ki ubralo saqmisTvis ar Rirs, amas pirdapir vambob _ es maTi reabilitaciis tolfasia! keTili inebos dRevandelma mTavrobam da, aRmoaCinos is mTavari danaSauli, raSic es maRalCinosnebi iyvnen CarTulni. maT Cadenili aqvT iseTi seriozuli politikuri danaSauli, rac did TanxebTan, an mkvlelobebTanaa dakavSirebuli, ase rom, pasuxi swored am saqmeebze unda agon da ara mxolod 3000 litr benzinsa da meore pasportze. saakaSvilis binZur tvinSi revanSis idea isev trialebs da mas jer kidev aqvs amis SesaZlebloba.A

axali mTavroba ras TaTbirobs, ar vici, magram yvelani vxedavT, rom misi drois 90% `nacionalebis~ mogeriebaze midis, nacvlad sagareo Tu socialur-ekonomikuri poli-tikis dalagebisa.

_ da Tqveni roli ra iqneba Zvelis wi-naaRmdeg axali xelisuflebis daxmarebis procesSi _ mxolod prokuraturaSi Set-anili 2 saqme?

_ Cems gansakuTrebul rols arc ara-vis vTavazob. ar uarvyof, rom am saqmeTa garkveva Cemi interesicaa, Tumca, maT sazogadoebrivi mniSvneloba aqvs, Torem Cemi mTavari mizani partiis dabruneba ar aris. amiT arc aravis vebodiSebi da arc imiT vaSineb, politikaSi vbrundebi-meTqi, ubralod, am etapze, vici, rom ar vapireb partiis Tavidan gakeTebas. realurad, bevrs undoda xelisuflebaSi mosvla, Tumca, veravin SeZlo is, rac `qarTulma ocnebam~.

_ romelmac saakaSvils Tqvens mag-ivrad miamtvria xel-fexi!

_ diax, Tundac! amitom, axla saakaSvilis moSorebis procesi bolomde unda miiyvanon da maTi uaxloesi periodis mTavari amocana is unda iyos, saakaSvils revanSze fiqri

saerTod Seawyvetinon! _ Tu partiis dabruneba araa revanSi

Tqveni mxridan, maSin partia raSi gWird-ebaT, roca politikur aqtivobas ar gegmavT?

_ marto amaSi rom iyos saqme, sajaro preskonferencia ar damWirdeboda da arc Tqven SegawuxebdiT, amas, rogorme, Tavad mivxedavdi, miT umetes, dRes. Tan politi-kuri aqtivobisTvis Zveli, diskreditebuli partia araferSi mWirdeba, roca axal xalx-Tan erTad, axal partias erT kviraSi dava-fuZneb. saqme isaa, rom minda, ara mxolod Semsruleblebis, aramed damkveTebis rolic gamoikveTos. mniSvnelovania isic, rom saa-kaSvilis satelituri partiebis lustracia moxdes. iqneb, marto me davarqvi am xalxs agentebi, xom unda gavigoT, sinamdvileSi vin vinaa? es ki imitomac unda gavakeToT, rom igive xalxi xval, Tundac `qarTulma ocnebam~, ar gamoiyenos Tavisi politikuri interesebis gasatareblad!

_ rCeba kidev erTi kiTxva Zvel par-tiaze _ roca javaxiZem sasamarTlo mo-gigoT, Tqven colze mTeli uZrav-moZravi qoneba marTla gadaaformeT?

_ roca aRsrulebis sakiTxi dadga, amis gakeTeba marTla daviwye, magram ver movaswari, Tumca asec rom yofiliyo, amiT ra? marto amiTac Cans, rom Cems winaaRmdeg mTeli saxelmwifo manqana iyo koordinire-buli. dRes aseTi viTarebaa _ Cemi qonebis nawili gayidulia, nawili _ dayadaRebuli, magram es araa problema. yvelaferi mogva-rebis procesSia.

_ Tu sworad gavige, roca politikaSi dabrunebas gadawyvetT, axal partias gaa-keTebT?

_ araferi vici! 2002 wels vTqvi, Cemi fexi ar iqneba politikaSi-meTqi da ukve 2003 wels isev finansTa ministri viyavi. 2007 wlis bolos rom wavedi premier-ministro-bidan, vTqvi, aRarasodes davbrundebi-Tqo da 2008 wlis agvistos omma opoziciuri partiis gakeTeba maiZula. axla imedi maqvs, iseTi araferi moxdeba, rac isev maiZulebs amis gakeTebas. amitom arafers vambob, Tvali rom ar meces. Cemi ufrosi aravinaa, Sesabamisad, aqtiur politikaSi Tu viqnebi, amasac getyviT, aba, xom ver davmalav?!

_ samagierod, damalavT bizness _ xSirad gvesmoda Tqveni interesebis Ses-axeb mediabiznesSi, `maestros~ yidvas vgulisxmob, aseve, xvdebiT Zvel part-niors ̀ kala kapitalidan~, kaxa kalaZes da isic gecodinebaT, `progresbankis~ wili ivaniSvilma rom SeiZina. biznesgegmebic ar gaqvT? Y

_ jer erTi, arsad wavsulvar. qveynidan xSirad gavdivar, radgan maqvs biznesi, ro-melic jer saqarTveloSi Semosuli araa da Tu gadavwyvet, rom Semovides, asec iqneba. am etapze, saqarTveloSi biznesinteresebi ar maqvs. me da kaxa kalaZe mezoblebic varT da SeiZleba, xSirad SevxvdeT erTmaneTs, magram _ ara saqmeze. `kala kapitals~ rac Seexeba, misi sameTvalyureo sabWos di-reqtori viyavi da rogorc ki opoziciaSi wasvla gadavwyvite, yvela biznesTanamde-bobidan wavedi. yvela biznesi, miT umetes,

maSindel saqarTveloSi, mTavrobis Tana-monawileobas Tu ara, minimum, keTilganwyo-bas mainc moiTxovda, amitom ar vapirebdi, im xalxisTvis SemeSala xeli, visTan erTadac vmuSaobdi. ar getyviT, ar mainteresebs, `kala kapitalSi~ axla ra xdeba-meTqi, magram saqmis kursSi ar var. magaliTad, vi-codi, ivaniSvilma bankis nawili rom iyida, magram es banki `progresbanki~ Tu iyo, ar vicodi. am bankSi ganviTarebul movlenebs ki Cems wasvlasTan ar vakavSireb _ isic imave mdgomareobaSi Cavarda, raSic 2008 wlis omis mere mTeli qarTuli ekonomika!

_ dRevandel ekonomikur gundze vis-aubroT. kaxa kalaZe, misi eqsmoadgile gia qavTaraZe, finansTa ministri nodar xa-duri _ maT Tqvens kadrebs eZaxian biZina ivaniSvilis ministrTa kabinetSi.

_ es araswori formulirebaa, magram dRes saqarTvelos saxelmwifo ekonomikur seqtorSi momuSave kompetentur adamianebs, vinc maRal biurokratiul Tanamdebobebze arian, adre Tu gvian, nebismier variantSi, eqneboda Cemi skola gamovlili, imden xans viyavi finansTa ministri da premieri.

xaduri Cemi moadgile iyo premierobis dros, kaxa Cemi megobaria, magram kadri namdvilad ar aris. amaze saubriT im azris Seqmnis mcdeloba, rom ekonomikur gundSi daniSvnebze rame zemoqmedebas vaxden, sruli unamusobaa! jer erTi, am procesebSi saerTod ar verevi, meore _ dRes axali mTavrobaa, romelsac Cemze aranakleb jiuti premieri hyavs, Sesabamisad, arc vcdilob da arc aravis sWirdeba Cemi Careva!

arasodes aviReb pasuxismgeblobas imaze, rasac ver gavakontroleb. isec ar minda

gamovides, TiTqos xalxi mexveweba, rCeva mogvecio da me uarze var _ arc maT sWird-ebaT rame da arc me viklav Tavs. jerjero-biT, zustad isic ar viciT, ivaniSvils ra ekonomikuri politika aqvs, amitom mivceT am xalxs Camoyalibebis saSualeba da mere TviTon agon amaze pasuxi!

_ roca xaduri dainiSna ministrad, yvelas maSinve Tqven da saakaSvili gaax-sendiT, noRaidelis moadgile gavapanRu-reo, gia qavTaraZec postidan 2-3 dReSi gadadga, ar minda, Cemi imijiT kalaZe dava-zianoo. vis SeiZleba hqondes interesi, rom am TemebTan mudmivad dagakavSiroT?

_ ar vici, Tu vinmes ar movwonvar, nu movwonvar!

simarTle giTxraT, arc vcdilob, axal xelisuflebaSi vinmes Tavi movawono. Sefasebebs rom vasajaroeb da intervius gaZlevT, imisTvis ar vakeTeb, kancelarias mesiji SevuTvalo, vaime, TqveniT kmayofili var da rogorRac gamixseneT-meTqi. es ase araa. amis gakeTebis sxva martivi da mokle gzebic arsebobs.

_ arc es gzebi gamogiyenebiaT? si-marTle giTxraT, bevrs egona, rom swored imitom gaaqtiurdiT, axal xelisuflebaSi Tqveni adgili gepovaT.

_ cxadia _ ara, es arc me mWirdeba, arc maT. Cemi am sakiTxebSi yuriT moTreva imisTvis, rom SeiZleba, viRacas raRac ar gamosdis, arasworia. roca tarifebze iyo diskusia, Cems dros imaze naklebi tarifebis miReba, rac gvqonda, warmoudgenelia. dRes ver mogcemT kompetentur pasuxs, SeiZleba Tu ara gadasaxadebis daweva, magram Tu es SeuZlebelia, sxvebisTvis amis gadabralebas unda SeeSvan! Cemi da viTom `Cemi kadrebis~ yuriT moTreva namdvilad araa saWiro. es me ar maRizianebs, ubralod, ar minda, sxva adamianebs SeeqmnaT problema. Torem me da Cemma ojaxma amaze bevrad mZime periodi ga-davitaneT _ maSin, roca qveynis moRalate merqva, Cemi Svili 12 wlis iyo da skolaSi TbilisSi dadioda. axla 15 wlisaa da imave skolaSi dadis, ase rom, arc imis gadamow-meba iyo Zneli, qveynidan ojaxiT wavedi Tu ara! Cven mTel am sibinZuresa da unamusobas erTad vismendiT da am yvelafers miCveuli var. oRond aravis mivcem imis saSualebas, dRes Cemi saxeli romelime warumateblobas daukavSiros. Tu tarifebs ver daweven, imas mainc ver ityvian, noRaideli rom iyo pre-mieri 2007 wels, es amitom ver SevZeliTo!

_ axla xelisuflebaSi ̀ erovnuli sab-Woa~, romelic Tqven gamo daiSala. aseve, irakli alasania, romelTan brwyinvale urTierTobiT arasodes gamoirCeodiT. amiT xom araa gamowveuli Tqveni gancxade-bebi, rom arc biznes da arc politikur saqmianobas ar apirebT saqarTveloSi _ iciT, rom xelgaSliT mainc aravin Segx-vdebaT?

_ upasuxismgeblo msjelobas axla azri ar aqvs. faqtia, saakaSvilis reJimi moSorebulia da axla `qarTuli ocneba~ saqarTvelos istoriis dadebiT mxaresaa. sxva Temaa, ramden xans SeZleben am mxares yofnas. es maTzea damokidebuli da aqve vacxadeb, rom maTTan, rogorc politikur ZalasTan, aranairi urTierToba ar maqvs. Tumca Tu politikuri an biznessaqmianobis wamowyebas gadavwyvet saqarTveloSi, xels veravin SemiSlis!

noRaideli prokuraturas

adeiSvil-merabiSvilis mier

Cadenili danaSaulobebis

kvalze gaiyvans!

arian Tu ara ivaniSvilis mTavrobaSi

`noRaidelis kadrebi~ da rogor apirebs saakaSvilis sateliti partiebis

lustrirebas zurab noRaideli

nino komaxiZe

politika

jiuti premieri, kargi finansisti, prorusi politikosi Tu partiis postidan gadayenebuli Tavmjdomare _ zurab noRaidelis garSemo am wlebis ganmavlobaSi mudmivad erTi politikuri skandali mainc iyo, magram eqspremieri imiTic kmayofilia, rom `nacionalebTan~ erTad politikur sanagveze yofnas Tavi aarida da axla, mTavar prokuraturaSi adeiSvil-merabiSvilis kvalze `gamyvani~ saqmeebi Seitana. `48 wlis asakSi araferi icvleba _ jiutad geubnebiT, Cemi yvela gadawyvetileba swori iyo~, _ acxadebs zurab noRaideli da `versiis~ kiTxvebs pasuxobs:

versianiusi

ilia meore: `roca sikeTisa da borotebis garCevas

viswavliT, dasjis nacvlad, unda davexmaroT borots,

rom misgan gaTavisufldes~

sruliad saqarTvelos kaTolikos-patriarqis, mcxeTa-Tbilisis mTavarepiskoposis, biWvinTisa da cxum-afxazeTis mitropolitis, uwmindesisa da unetaresis ilia meoris gancxadebiT, roca sikeTisa da borotebis garCevas viswavliT, dasjis nacvlad, unda davexmaroT borots, rom misgan gaTavisufl-des.

`RmerTma mogvces unari, gavarCioT TeTri da Savi, boroteba da sikeTe. roca gaarCev, sad aris boroteba da keTili, es imas ar niSnavs, rom Sen unda gaanadguro is, Sen unda daexmaro, rom gaTavisufldes am borotebisgan. me imedi maqvs, rom sikeTe imefebs. bolo dros aqtualuri gaxda RmerTi, samSoblo da adamiani. zogierTs arc er-Tis mniSvneloba ar esmis. cxovrobs mxolod dRe-vandeli dRiT, garTobiT, vnebebiT, ainteresebs is, rac saintereso ar aris~, _ brZana uwmindesma.

`pirveli~

#141 (748) 10 - 11 dekemberi, 2012 weli8

eka sexniaSvili

jandacva

_ batono ramaz, laparaskopia Taname-drove medicinaSi ukve iqca uSvilobasTan brZolis yvelaze efeqtur saSualebad. ra aris is mTavari berketi laparaskopiaSi, romelic uSvilobasTan brZolaSi ase gamokveTil Sedegebs iZleva?

_ uSviloba, zogadad, Tanamedrove medicinaSi erT-erT seriozul problemas warmoadgens, radgan gamomwvevi mizezi ram-denime daavadeba SeiZleba iyos da saerTo jamSi, iwvevdes qalbatonis unayofobis ganviTarebas. uSvilobis gamomwvevi mize-zebi, SesaZloa, iyos endokrinologiuri daavadebebidan gamomdinare, aseve infeqci-uri, virusuli da genetikuri genezisi. Sei-Zleba iyos aseTi suraTic, rom aranairi sxva Civili qalbatons ar aqvs, klinikurad ar vlindeba arc hormonaluri darRvevebi, arc infeqciebi aqvs gadatanili da erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi mainc ar orsuldeba, aseT SemTxvevaSi saerTaSoriso gaedlainebis specifikis mixedviT, zusti mizezis dasad-genad yvelaze efeqturi saSualeba sadiag-nostiko laparaskopiis Catarebaa.

laparaskopia iZleva saSualebas, movaxdinoT muclis Rrus organoebis sruli vizualizacia- daTvaliereba, maT Soris qalis sasqeso organoebis, saSvilosnos, sakvercxeebis, kvercxmavali milis da a.S. Tu ra mdgomareobaSia saSvilosno, gvxvdeba Tu ara iq kvanZi da a.S.

kvanZis arseboba SesaZlebelia eqos-kopiuradac dadgindes, magram aris iseTi daavadebebi, magaliTad, SexorcebiTi pro-cesi, romelic, rogorc wesi, eqoskopias naklebad eqvemdebareba.

SesaZlebelia, ganviTarebuli iyos iseTi daavadeba, rogoricaa endometriozi, romelsac xSirad klinikuri gamovlineba ar aqvs da mxolod laparaskopiiT

dgindeba aseTi endometriuli ubnebi, romelic xels uSlis nayofierebas. anu laparaskopiis Semdeg qalbatons aRar uCndeba kiTxva, Tu ratomaa uSvilo, man CvenTan Catarebuli diagnostikis Semdeg ukve icis, ra aris misi uSvilobis konkretuli mizezi da miznobrivad vmkurnalobT mas.

imedgacruebuli pacientebi finansebsa da dros xSirad wlobiT xarjaven. eqimebis nawilic, SesaZloa, borotad iyenebdes mis am problemas _ kargi remontiT, imediani dapirebebiTa da Tanamedrove teqnikiT izidavs pacients da realurad, wlebi gadis ise, rom uSvilobis mizezebi ver dgindeba. laparaskopiaSic 3-4 kacs vicnob iseTs, romelsac adamiani Tavis janmrTelobas an-dobs, anu am dargis specialistebis mkafio deficitia saqarTveloSi, rac samwuxaroa.

Cven SevqmeniT specialuri, uSvilobasTan brZolis saqvelmoqmedo fondi. misi Camoyalibebis mTavari motivacia isic iyo, rom arc erTi qarTuli sadazRvevo kompania uSvilobis problemas ar afinansebs, pacientebi xSirad, finansur kriziss ganicdian, xolo saqvelmoqmedo fondi erTgvari saSualebaa, rom TveSi ramdenime wyvils mainc ufasod CavutaroT operacia. amas vukeTebT piradi saxsrebiT, radgan am saqmeSi Cven finansuri mxardaWera ar gvaqvs da arc kerZo donorebi gvyavs. dRemde humanitaruli gziT, 72 operacia gvaqvs gakeTebuli.

ramdenadac Cvens klinikaSi ar gvaqvs saSualeba, rom Tavad davadginoT wyvilis finansuri mdgomareobis zusti suraTi, amitomac am sakiTxs vandobT sapatriarqos, maTTan xelSekrulebis safuZvelze, swored maTi rekomendaciiT varCevT pacients, romelsac ufaso operacia Cautardeba. garda amisa, me maqvs erTi samuSao princi-pic, rom pacientis pirveli konsultacia CemTan ufasoa. ramdenadac materialuri danaxarjebi aq naklebia, me miveci Tavs ufleba, amiT mainc davexmaro pacientebs da ufasod gavuwio uSvilobiT gawamebul wyvilebs konsultacia. Cveni fondi xSirad atarebs humanitarul aqciebsac, sadac ukve Sedis eqoskopiuri kvlevebic.

Cvens klinikaSi, garda ginekologiisa, laparaskopia aseve gamoiyeneba qirurgiaSic, kerZod, naRvlisbuStis, apendicitis, Tiaqarisa da sxva operaciebis drosac. aseve gamoiyeneba da Zalian efeqturad, e.w. kuWis dapataravebis, anu bariatriuli operaciis dros, wonaSi daklebisa da tipi-2 diabetis mkurnalobis mizniT.

_ batono ramaz, laparaskopia aseve umtkivneulo da efeqturi saSualebaa sxvadasxva ginekologiur-plastikuri operaciebis drosac...

_ CvenTan keTdeba yvela operacia, rac qalis ginekologiur problemebs Seexeba: organos SemanarCunebeli operaciebi saS-vilosnoze, rodesac amoRebuli gvaqvs 28 kvanZi da saSvilosno SenarCunebuli gaqvs, SemdgomSi pacientma bavSvic gaaCina. aseve iseTi radikaluri operaciebi, rogoricaa saSvilosnos amokveTa gaWris gareSe da usisxlod. CvenTan keTdeba iseTi uiSvia-Tesi operaciebic, rogoricaa xelovnuri

saSos Seqmna ,,rokitanski maier kiusneris~ sindromis dros, roca qalbatons ar aqvs saSo. am operaciis Semdeg mas sqesobrivi aqtis Catarebis saSualeba miecema.

_ rac Seexeba saqalwule apkis aRdge-niT operacias?!

_ rac Seexeba saqalwule apkis aRdgenas, romelic garkveul wreebSi isev popularu-lia, me, piradad, amoralur operaciad mimaC-nia. roca ojaxis Seqmna Tavidanve agebulia sicrueze da amaze orientirebulia qali. Tumca aris xSiri SemTxveva, roca samedici-no gadaudeblobiT gvWirdeba apkis aRdgena.

laparaskopiuli gziT operaciisas, pacienti stacionaridan gaewereba meore dResve, invazia anu Careva aris minimaluri. es aris operacia gaWris gareSe, usisxlod. magaliTad, gareorsulobis operaciis Casatareblad me mWirdeba zustad 14 wuTi, rodesac mucelkveTiT tradiciuli qirurgiis SemTxvevaSi is, yovelgvari garTulebebis gareSec ki, minimum 40 wuTs mimdinareobs. Tanac pacients, laparoskopiuli operaciis dros, arc nawiburi rCeba sxeulze, arc Sidapostoperaciuli Sexorcebebi Seawuxebs. meore dResve is midis saxlSi da araviTari postoperaciuli garTulebebi ar aqvs.

Tumca, es ar niSnavs imas, rom qirurgi mxolod laparoskopisti unda iyos da uari unda Tqvas rig, saWiro SemTxvevebSi, tradiciul qirurgiaze.

_ batono ramaz, rogor fiqrobT, sa-dazRvevo kompaniebis samkurnalo xar-jebis nusxaSi ratom ar Sedis unayofobis mkurnaloba?

_ mogexsenebaT, demografiuli prob-lema saqarTveloSi seriozul sakiTxad iqca, gansakuTrebiT bolo wlebSi. Tumca TavisTavad, uSvilobis problema erT-erTi ZviradRirebuli fufunebaa da sadazRvevo kompaniebic, bunebrivia, komerciuli da bi-znesinteresebidan gamomdinare, ar azRveven am tipis mkurnalobis xarjebs. maTTvis es komerciulad momgebiani araa. erTma qalba-tonma miTxra amas winaT, 40 wlis ise gavxdi, ginekologTan ar vyofilvaro. saqarTveloSi rom mZime pacientebia, aseTi arc postsab-WoTa sivrceSi minaxavs da arc evropaSi.

Tavad qarTvelma qalbatonebmac unda gaiTvaliswinon, rom ginekologTan xSirad hqondeT vizitebi. CvenTan, Jordanias institutis endoskopiuri qirurgiis klinikaSi maT kvalificiurad moemsaxurebian. pacientebs SeuZliaT dagvikavSirdnen mobilur telefonze 599436000.

rogor `axeven~ fuls uSvilo

qalbatonebs da ratom unda mividnen isini

endoskopist ramaz CareqiSvilTan?!

uSvilobis zusti mizezis dadgena da am mizezTan brZolis yvelaze efeqturi saSualeba _ es laparaskopiis xiblia da Tanamedrove medicinaSi swored amitomac gaizarda masze moTxovna. arada, unayofobiT gawvalebuli qalbatonebi wlidan wlamde uSedegod daiarebian erTi klinikidan meoreSi da xSirad, uSvilobis zust mizezebs didi xnis ganmavlobaSi ver adgenen, amas plus, finansebis xarjva, dakarguli dro da arakvalificiuri specialistebi, romlebic uSvilobas piradi jibis gasqelebisTvisac iyeneben. ratom ar afinanseben sadazRvevo kompaniebi uSvilobis mkurnalobis xarjebs da ratomaa laparaskopia yvelaze efeqturi saSualeba uSvilobasTan brZolisas?! `versia~ am sakiTxebze saqarTveloSi laparaskopiuli qirurgiis erT-erT damfuZnebels, Jordanias saxelobis reproduqciuli institutis endoskopiuri qirurgiis klinikis xelmZRvanels, profesor ramaz CareqiSvils esaubra.

versianiusi

guliko zumbaZe garemovaWreebisTvis, droebiTi RonisZiebis

saxiT, savaWro konstruqciebis mowyobas iTxovs

Tbilisis sakrebulos fraqcia `qarTuli ocneba _ Tbiliselebis~ Tavmjdo-mare guliko zumbaZe garemovaWreebisTvis, droebiTi RonisZiebis saxiT, savaWro konstruqciebis mowyobas iTxovs. Sesabamisi gancxadebiT man dedaqalaqis merias oficialurad mimarTa. zumbaZis TqmiT, bazrobebis mimdebare teritoriaze une-barTvo garevaWrobebi xorcieldeba, romelTa SezRudvac meriis zedamxedvelobis samsaxurisa da sapatrulo policiis mier Zalis gamoyenebiTa da savaWro saqonlis CamorTmeviT xdeba. misive ganmartebiT, garemovaWreebi gausaZlis ekonomikur mdgomareobaSi arian da daxmarebis TxovniT, sakrebulos araerTxel mimarTes.

zumbaZe dedaqalaqis mers, gigi ugulavas sTxovs, garevaWrobis daregulirebis mizniT, saaxalwlo periodSi, 15 dekembridan 15 ianvramde droebiTi RonisZiebebi ganaxorcielos. kerZod, misi moTxovnaa, aRiricxos garemovaWreTa raodenoba, ganisazRvros gasayidi saqonlis saxeoba, moewyos Sesaferisi konstruqciebi, uzrunvelyofili iyos dasufTavebis reJimi da TiToeul garemovaWres individualuri gadasaxadi dauwesdes, araumetes sami larisa. amasTan, zumbaZe acxadebs, rom garemovaWrebs zedamxedv-elobis samsaxuris davalebiT arbeven da saqonlebs arTmeven, Tumca maT eubnebian, rom es axali mTavrobis davalebiT xdeba. sakrebulos deputati miiCnevs, rom amiT meria ̀ qarTuli ocnebis~ mimarT moqalaqeebis uaryofiTad ganwyobas cdilobs. zumbaZesTan erTad, meriasTan Tavad garemovaWreebic imyofebodnen. rogorc isini acxadeben, bazris teritoriaze Sesvla da iq vaWroba ar SeuZliaT, radgan maTi yoveldRiuri Semosavali mxolod adgilis gadasaxads ver gawvdeba.

`pirveli~

oTar gamyreliZe: `eleqtroenergiaze

tarifi, SesaZloa, 3-4 TeTriT

molaparakebiTac Semcirdes~

eqsperti energetikis sakiTxebSi oTar gamyreliZe miiCnevs, rom eleqtroenergiaze tarifis Semcirebis mizniT aucilebelia, garda meTodologiisa, am sferoSi ukve arsebuli xelSekrulebebic gadaixedos.

amis Sesaxeb man Jurnalistebs, saqarTvelos saxelmwifo eleqtrosistemaSi mimdinare Sexvedrisas ganucxada, sadac energetikosTa sazogadoebis warmomadgenlebma da eqspertebma tarifis Semcirebis Temaze imsjeles.

`tarifis Semcirebas, ra Tqma unda, molapara-keba sWirdeba, magram amasTanave, garda im meTodologiisa, riTac tarifi iangariSeba, saWiroa im xelSekrulebebis naxva, rac gaaformes `energo-pro jorjiasTan~, `ei-i-es TelasTan~. amis Semdeg dazustdeba, ramdeniT SesaZlebelia tarifis Semcireba. dReis pirobebSi, radgan es swrafad aris saWiro, SesaZloa, 3-4 TeTriT molaparakebiTac Semcirdes~, _ aRniSna man.

`pirveli~

#141 (748) 10 - 11 dekemberi, 2012 weli 9

eqskluzivi

ganaTleba

xelisuflebebisa da ganaTlebis ministrebis cvlis miuxedavad, qarTuli skolis erT-erT dauZlevel problemad daumorCilebel moswavleebTan fizikuri angariSsworeba rCeba. ra moxda Tbilisis 89-e sajaro skolaSi, ratom iTxovs saqarTvelos pedagogTa da mSobelTa asociaciis Tavmjdomare skolaSi ganaTlebis saministros komisiis Sesvlas da derefanSi damontaJebuli videokamerebis Semowmebas, `versias~ Tavad lia nikolaiSvili uambobs:

_ aravin ifiqros, SurisZieba malapara-kebdes, magram CemTvis, rogorc 89-e skolis yofili pedagogisa da pedagogTa uflebebis damcvelisTvis, sul erTi araa, rac skolaSi Cemi wamosvlis Semdeg xdeba.

skolidan 2009 wels gamomiSves, viTom moswavlis cemis braldebiT da 2010 wels, geografis maswavlebelma da sameurveo sabWos wevrma marina ugrexeliZem (romelic Zalian aqtiurobda Cemi gaSvebis saqmeSi), mecxreklaseli moswavle ise scema, skolaSi areuloba da moswavleebis aqciebi mohyva. nacemi moswavlis klaselebi, protestis niSnad, gakveTilebze aRar Sediodnen, magram yvelaferi imiT damTavrda, rom skolis direqciam bavSvis mSoblebi aiZula, Svili sxva skolaSi

gadaeyvanaT. amis Semdeg biblioTekarma dali WiWinaZem scema moswavle, magram es saqmec `Cafarcxes~. visze naklebi varo da, kolegebs moswavleebis cemaSi arc meore klasis pedagogi ana araxamia CamorCa. jer erT-erTi moswavle gvarad xanibovi scema da ramdenime dRis win, meoreklasel luka javaSvils gausworda.

_ am cema-tyepas skolis mandaturebi mSvidad uyureben?

_ ̀ nacionalebis~ mmarTvelobis periodSi, skolis direqtori imdenad xelSeuxebeli iyo, xmis amoRebas azri ar hqonda. SeiZleba mandaturi gaeSvaT da soloRaSvils aravin Seexeboda, amitom skolaSi dausjelobis sindromi gabatonda da moswavlis fizikuri Seuracxyofa Cveulebriv movlenad iqca. ro-gorc giTxariT, bolo incidenti or dRis win moxda. imave ana araxamiam, romelic sxvaTa So-ris, direqtoris axlobelia da skolidan Cemi moSorebis Semdeg, Cemi saaTebi gadasces, luka jaoSvili jer gakveTilze scema, mere dere-fanSi gamoiyvana da beWdiani xeli gaartya. es videokamerebmac daafiqsira da mandaturebmac dainaxes. mandaturebi da nacemi bavSvis bebia, romelic am skolaSi damlageblad muSaobs, kategoriulad iTxovdnen damnaSave pedago-gis skolidan gaSvebas, magram jerjerobiT, direqtorma xan muqariTa da xan xvewniT, misi gaCumeba moaxerxa.

_ ras niSnavs, gaCumeba moaxerxa, nacemi moswavleebis axloblebis `damuSavebis~ gansakuTrebuli meTodebi aqvs?

_ albaT... rogorc vici, bebias jer dae-

muqra da mere xvewna dauwyo, gaCerdi, Torem isedac daZabuli mdgomareobaa da saministrom es ambavi rom gaigos, samsaxuridan gamiSvebeno.

ar vici, ra gadawyvetilebas miiRebs bavSvis bebia, magram me swored amas moviTxov. saministrom es ambavi, rac SeiZleba droulad, unda gaigos da skolaSi komisia gagzavnos. moviTxov, gaixsnas videokamerebi da yvelaferSi Tavad darwmundnen, Tumca am informaciis utyuarobaze TaviT vageb pasuxs.

samarcxvinoa, rom aseTi pedagogebi da di-reqtori moswavlis cemas sxvas, Tan sruliad udanaSaulo adamians daswameben, romlis si-marTle sasamarTlos orma instanciam daadas-tura. nacvlad imisa, rom SercxveT da bodiSi moixadon, soloRaSvili da misi `kamanda~ maswavleblebis xelmowerebs agrovebs da ga-naTlebis saministroSi gzavnis, nikolaiSvili politikuri niSniT ki ara, moswavlis cemis gamo gavaTavisufleTo. sainteresoa, ra ze-wolas axorcielebs direqtori pedagogebze, aseT siyalbeze rom aweren xels, magram gansa-kuTrebiT sainteresoa, riT imarTlebs Tavs nana soloRaSvili skolaSi momxdari bolo incidentis Semdeg?!

bunebrivia, analogiuri kiTxva `versia-sac~ gauCnda, magram imis gamo, rom nacemi bavSvis bebia TbilisSi ar imyofeba da 89-e skolis direqtori komentarze jiutad uars acxadebs, interesiT davelodebiT, ra gadawyvetilebas miiRebs am saqmesTan daka-vSirebiT, ganaTlebis saministro.

neli Tordia

skandali da cema-tyepis faqtebi 89-e sajaro skolaSi

pedagogi derefanSi damontaJebuli videokamerebis Semowmebas da

skolaSi komisiis Sesvlas iTxovs!

sazogadoeba

TaRliTuri sqema, riTac `Zveli Tbilisis axali

sicocxlis~ samSeneblo firmebi muSebs atyuebdnen

sabinao fondis gaumjobesebis, ekonomikuri problemebis daZlevisa da axali samuSao adgilebis Seqmnis mizniT, Tbilisis meriam 2009 wlis ivnisSi, axali proeqti _ ̀ Zveli Tbilisis axali sicocxle~ warmoadgina. pirvel etapze, gamarjvebul samSeneblo kompaniebsa da oTx banks Soris xelSekrulebebi gaformda, romlis Tanaxmad, avariul binebSi mcxovrebi moqalaqeebis sacxovrebeli binebiT uzrunvelyofisa da mSeneblobis droulad dasrulebis mizniT, bankebma kompaniebs mravalmilioniani kreditebi gamouyves. iuridiul da fizikur pirTa uflebebis dacva antikorufciuli kavSiris Tavmjdomare giorgi burjanaZe `versias~ im sqemas uSifravs, riTac proeqtSi monawile samSeneblo kompaniebma mSeneblobaze dasaqmebuli adamianebi ̀ gadaagdes~:

_ meriis mier ganxorcielebuli nebismieri proeqti, Tanxebis miznobrivad xarjvisa da xarisxianobis kuTxiT, uamrav kiTxvas aCens. Tumca amjerad, yuradRebas sxva pr oblemaze gavamaxvileb. cnobilia, rom proeqt `Zveli Tbilisis axali sicocxlis~ farglebSi, Zvel ubnebSi sacxovrebeli korpusebis mSenebloba mimdinareobda. ramdenjerme miviReT infor-macia, rom tenderSi gamarjvebuli kompaniis xelmZRvanelobas eliavas bazrobidan ahyavda iafi muSaxeli, amuSavebda da xelfasis micemis

dros, Sesr ulebuli samuSaoebis uxarisxobis momizezebiT, anazRaurebis gareSe uSvebda. Tu romelime muSa Zalian gajiutdeboda, Tanxis nawils gadaugdebdnen da Tavidan iSorebdnen. wadi, Torem fulis mocema ki ara, rac gvazara-le, imasac gadagaxdevinebTo.

_ muSas SeeZlo, damsaqmeblis ukanono qmedebebi meriaSi, an bolos da bolos, sa-samarTloSi gaesaCivrebina.

_ samSeneblo kompaniebs iseTi sqema hqondaT SemuSavebuli, rom didxans aravis amuSavebdnen. ori kviris an erTi Tvis Semdeg, muSas raRac mizezs upovnidnen da uSvebdnen, amitom xelfasebis gacemis dros, did Tanxebze ar iyo saubari. 500-600 laris gamo ki sasamarT-loebSi sirbilsa da saCivrebis weras yvela erideba, miT umetes, sasamarTloSic fulia saWiro da advokatTanac.

bunebrivia, movindomeT gagverkvia 21-e saukunis monaTmflobelebis vinaoba, magram ugulavas uwyebam pilatesaviT, xelebi daibana. mSeneblobas tenderSi gamarjvebuli kom-paniebi awarmoeben da Cven maTTan aranairi kav-Siri ar gvaqvso. mogexsenebaT, amJamad, meriaSi

sagamoZiebo uwyebebia Sesuli da, pirvel rigSi, amiT unda dainteresdnen. miT ufro, rom arse-boben konkretuli dazaralebulebi, vinc mZime fizikuri samuSaos Sesrulebis Semdeg, anaz-Raurebis nacvlad, dacinva da muqara miiRes~.

`versia~ am faqtis gadasamowmeblad, proeqtis farglebSi mSenebare erT-erT sacxovrebel korpusze momuSave levan gaCeCilaZes esaubra:

_ saburTaloze, sportis sasaxlis ukan mSenebare korpusSi vmuSaobdi.

saxli devnilebisTvis Sendeboda da muSebs gviTxres, saSualo xarisxze unda gvemuSava, magram roca xelfasis gacemis dro movida, Sevatyve, ̀ prarabebi~ mizezs eZebdnen, rom xalxisTvis xelfasebi ar miecaT an daekloT. yvela muSas es problema hqonda. me, daaxloebiT, 10 dRe vimuSave da 400-dan 500 laramde unda ameRo. sxvebs Cemze metic hqondaT asaRebi.

_ Tu iciT, mSeneblobas romeli kompania awarmoebda?

_ meriis romeliRac firma muSaobda, zus-tad ar vici. roca ufross vkiTxe, vina xarT aseTi yaCaRebi da gadamgdebebi-Tqo, saerTod, daimala, arc saxeli miTxra da arc gvari. Tavidan `prarabis~ saSualebiT vukavSird-ebodi, magram mere telefoni imanac gamiTiSa da damemala. roca Zalian Sevawuxe, muSebTan nawil-nawil damitoves fuli, magram rogorc vici, danarCenebs TavianTi namuSevari dRemde ar auRiaT.

kargi iqneba, Tu vinme daiTvlis, am proeqtis mimdinareobis farglebSi ramdeni adamiani `gadaagdes~ meriis samSeneblo kompaniebma da ra moculobis Tanxa amoRlites isedac gaWirvebuli adamianebis jibeebidan... merwmuneT, survilis SemTxvevaSi, dazaralebuli adamianebis moZieba aravis gauWirdeba.

neli Tordia

biZina ivaniSvili: `Cemi neba iyo,

avaSenebdi Tu ara muskomediis

Teatrs da ra SuaSia Cemi

dakiTxva, saerTod, ar mesmis~

saqarTvelos premier-ministr bi-Zina ivaniSvilis gancxadebiT, misi neba iyo, aaSenebda muskomediis Teatrs Tu ara da amasTan dakavSirebiT, misi dakiTxva ra SuaSia, saerTod ar esmis.

amis Sesaxeb ivaniSvilma Tbilisis sakrebulos Tavmjdomaris moadgi-lis, mamuka axvledianis im gancxadebis komentirebisas aRniSna, romelSic axvledianma aRniSna, rom riyis parkis ganviTarebis proeqtTan dakavSire-biT, premier-ministri biZina ivaniS-vilic unda daikiTxos.

`roca parlamentSi umciresobis wevrebs vxvdebodi, iq vTqvi, rom muskomediis Teatrs vakeTebdi da es axvledianis aRmoCenili namdvilad ar aris, Tumca roca Tavdapirvelad Teatris proeqti maCvenes, es iyo naxati. masze gamosaxuli iyo ori doqi, roca arqiteqtorebs naxati zomebSi movayvanine, aRmoCnda, rom aRniSnuli Teatri saSineleba gamovidoda da am proeqtis ganxor-cielebaze uari vTqvi. ra SuaSia aq Cemi dakiTxva, ar mesmis. me SemeZlo, ameSenebina es Teatri, SemeZlo – ara. Tavidanve vambobdi, rom saSineleba iqneboda, Tumca kargad mogexsene-baT, rom saakaSvili ukan araferze ixevs~, _ ganacxada ivaniSvilma.

misive TqmiT, riyis parki misi dizaineris gakeTebulia.

`pirveli~

#141 (748) 10 - 11 dekemberi, 2012 weli10

nino xarSilaZe

sazogadoeba

emuqreba Tu ara daxurva

WavWavaZis #24-Si mdebare

wereTlis biblioTekas?

saqarTveloSi da gansakuTrebiT, dedaqalaqSi, ramdenime aTasi biblioTeka daixura. ugulavas morigi `msxverpli~ vakeSi, WavWavaZis gamzirze #24-Si mdebare akaki wereTlis saxelobis saqalaqo biblioTeka aRmoCnda. 6-7 dekembers, dedaqalaqis mers inteligenciam, vakis mosaxleobam da studentobam Txovnis werili gaugzavna, sadac biblioTekis daxurvis SeCerebas iTxoven. saqmis detalebis gasarkvevad, `versia~ akaki wereTlis saxelobis biblioTekis direqtors, elene kasraZes esaubra:

_ am SenobisTvis brZola ukve 20 welia midis. jer 1993 wels undoda misi misakuTreba ministrTa kabinets da waiRo kidec. maSin Sesabamisi brZanebac gamovida. sociologiuri marTvis centri unda gaxsniliyo; wignebis nacvlad, sxvadasxva dadgenilebebi unda Senaxuliyo. maSin biblioTeka xalxma gadaarCina. 2-3 kviris win, 2 axalgazrda movida, miTxres, meriidan gamogvgzavneso _ saqirave-blad farTi ainteresebdaT raRac arasamTavrobo organizaciisT-vis. vuTxari, rom gasaqiravebeli farTi ar gvqonda. biblioTekas aqvs samkiTxvelo darbazi da gacemis ganyofileba. gviTxres, Zalian kargi proeqtebi gvaqvs da gvinda, biblioTekas davexmaroTo. maT biblioTekis Senobis naxevari farTis waReba surT _ samkiTxvelo darbazis, kompiuterebis oTaxisa da sacavis nawilis, rac biblioTe-kis paralizebas gamoiwvevs da es raRa daxmarebaa, ver getyviT.

meored rom movidnen, avadmyofobis gamo samsaxurSi ar viyavi, maSinac igive uTqvamT da suraTebi gadauRiaT. 5 dekembers ukve mesamed, iseTi SemarTebiT movidnen, CavTvaleT, ukve dasturi hqondaT meriidan. im dros aq Zalian bevri mkiTxveli iyo da amas Zalian didi gaRizianeba mohyva. mTeli vakis raioni fexze dadga, radganac aqvT magaliTebi imisa, rom mravali biblioTeka daixura, Tundac am raionSi. studentebisa da inteligenciis saxeliT, me-riaSi gancxadebac Sevida, romelsac mraval adamianTan erTad, xels aweren irina RoRoberiZe, sandro TvalWreliZe, qeTi doliZe, lia sturua da sxva adamianebi. isini moiTxoven, SeCerdes biblioTekis daxurvis procesi.

sxva drosac mosulan farTis qiraobis TxovniT, magram uaris SemTxvevaSi problemebs ar gviqmnidnen. dRes ki verafriT davumt-kiceT am axalgazrdebs, rom biblioTekas gasaqiravebeli farTi ar aqvs. eWvi ar mepareba, rom maT ukan viRac dgas.

_ isic ar iciT, vin iyvnen an ris gakeTebas apireben?_ vinaoba ar gagvimxiles, mxolod is gviTxres, rom Zalian undaT

am farTis daqiraveba. suraTebis gadaRebac daukiTxavad daiwyes._ es biblioTeka da misi Senoba meriis balanszea, daurekeT

merias da SeatyobineT am faqtis Sesaxeb an ra gipasuxes?_ ratomRac meriaSi, biblioTekasTan dakavSirebiT aravin

araferi icis. Woris doneze isic viciT, rom es Senoba didi xnis gayidulia da 5 dekembers misi patroni gamoCnda.

_ dameTanxmebiT, biblioTeka Zalian prestiJul adgilzea, amitomac aris gansakuTrebuli interesi, iyo mcdeloba, igi sxva biblioTekisTvis SeeerTebinaT?

_ martSi, gigi ugulavam ganacxada, rom vakis parkSi Sendeba Tanamedrove mediaTeka, sadac eleqtronuli wignebi iqneboda. ara-da, mediaTekasa da biblioTekas Soris arsebiTi sxvaobaa. kompiut-erSi yvela wignis wakiTxva Zalian Znelia. is ar iqneba is biblioTeka, rac xalxs sWirdeba. safrangeTis, germaniis, baltiispireTis qveynebis biblioTekebSi namyofi var da yvelgan wignia. zogma kompiuteri ar icis, vinc icis, xSirad arc maTTvisaa sasurveli ekranze wignis kiTxva. mosaxleoba isea SeSinebuli, biblioTeka ar daxurono, ramdenjerac satvirTo manqanas dainaxaven, gamorbian saSvelad. dReSi 300-400 kacs vemsaxurebiT.

`versia~ meriis pressamsaxurs daukavSirda da scada gaerkvia, ra xdeba wereTlis saxelobis biblioTekasTan dakavSirebiT. aRmoCnda, rom maT ar ician, vin mivida meriis saxeliT WavWavaZis 24-Si, xolo biblioTekas daxurva ar emuqreba.

rogor moipova sabavSvo evroviziaze jgufma

FUNKIDS gamarjvebulze maRali qula

saqarTvelo ukve meeqvsed monawileobda sabavSvo `evroviziaze~ da mas amjerad jgufi FUNKIDS warmoadgenda. `bzikebi studios~ proeqti kvlavac warmatebuli aRmoCnda da konkursSi monawile 12 qveyanas Soris, 103 quliT meore adgili daikava. eqvsi wlis ganmavlobaSi saqarTvelo ukve orjer gaxda festivalis gamarjvebuli da orive proeqti ̀ bzikebi studiom~ ganaxorciela. ̀ versias~ proeqtis erT-erTi organizatori da ̀ bzikebi studios~ vokalis pedagogi sofo oyreSiZe esaubra:

_ Cveni jgufi, romelic sul ramdenime adamianisgan Sedgeba, giga kuxianiZis xelmZRvanelobiT, 2008 wlidan muSaobs `evroviziis~ pro-eqtze, romelic saqarTvelosTvis sabavSvo konkursebs Soris yvelaze warmatebuli aRmoCnda. 2008 wels iyo jgufi `bzikebis~ pirveli adgili, amas mohyva mariam kaxeliSvilis meo-Txe adgili, Semdeg iyo jgufi ̀ qendi~ kvlavac pirveli adgiliT da wels ukve jgufma FUNKIDS moipova meore adgili.

_ saqarTvelosTvis sabavSvo `evrovizia~ sakmaod warmatebuli konkursia. rogor fiqrobT, ra gaxda

am warmatebis mizezi da kmayofili xarT Tu ara wlevandeli SedegiT?

_ Cveni proeqtebi yovelTvis saintereso da gansxvavebulia. Cveni pirveli warmateba iyo jgufi `bzike-bi~, romelmac 2008 wels ̀ evroviziaze~ pirveli adgili daikava. aranakleb saintereso da warmatebuli aRmoCnda mariam kaxeliSvilis radikalurad gansxvavebuli da araordinaluri proeqti, romelmac, marTalia, meoTxe adgili moipova, magram sxvadasxva qveynebis televiziebisa da presis jer arnaxuli daintereseba gamoiwvia. amas mohyva jguf `qendis~ pirveli adgili. mokled, Cvenma proeqtebma gaamarTla da sul ufro da ufro pop-ularulebi gavxdiT. rac Seexeba wl-evandel konkurss, jgufma FUNKIDS meore adgili daikava 12 qveyanas So-ris. es aris SesaniSnavi Sedegi da didi warmateba. rac mTavaria, ̀ evroviziis~ Jiuris yvelaze maRali Sefaseba – 12 qula davimsaxureT maSin, roca gamar-jvebulma ukrainelma gogonam, igive Jiurisgan, 10 qula miiRo.

_ rogor SeirCeva bavSvebi am proeqtisTvis da rogor Seiqmna jgufi FUNKIDS?

_ am proeqtisTvis bavSvebis SerCe-va xdeba sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis saprodiusero jgufis mier konkur-sis wesiT. Jiuris erT-erTi wevri gaxlavT musikosi giga kuxianiZe, ro-melic Cveni studiisa da am proeqtis avtoria. misi dawerilia Cvens mier `evroviziaze~ warmodgenili TiTqmis yvela simRera. bavSvi, vokaluri mona-cemebis garda, iseT kriteriumebsac unda akmayofilebdes, rogoricaa sam-

saxiobo monacemebi, plastika, qoreo-grafia. rac Seexeba jgufs FUNKIDS, mis SemadgenlobaSi oTxi bavSvia: qeTi samxaraZe, nini daSniani, elene araCaS-vili da luka yarmazanaSvili. Cveni mTavari amocana iyo, jgufi yofiliyo Sekruli da momxdariyo TiToeuli bavSvis SesaZleblobis maqsimaluri realizeba, raTa jgufis wevrebs erT-nairi datvirTva hqonodaT.

_ ramdenad Zlieri konkuren-tebi gyavdaT?

_ konkursamde ramdenime xniT adre xdeba cnobili, romeli qveyana ra simReras warmoadgens. ase rom, holan-diaSi wasvlamde, Cven ukve vicodiT, ras imRerebdnen konkurentebi da, darwmunebulebic viyaviT, rom Zalian kargi masala gveWira xelSi. xmamaRali ganacxadia, magram Tavidanve igrZno-boda, rom wels sabavSvo `evroviz-iaze~ aminds saqarTvelo qmnida. didi siamayiT vacxadeb, rom monawile qvey-nebi TiTqos raRaciT Cvens mibaZvas cdilobdnen.… postsabWoTa qveynebis delegaciidan aseTi replikac ki iyo, ramdeni fuli aqvs saqarTvelos dax-arjuli am konkursSi, yovel weliwads aseTi warmatebulebi rom ariano. minda ganvacxado, rom aranairi finansuri daintereseba Cveni mxridan ar arse-bobs da arc erTi kapiki am konkursze ar daxarjula. es yvelaferi mxolod Cveni enTuziazmiT keTdeba.

_ ratomaa saqarTvelo ufro warmatebuli sabavSvo `evroviz-iaze~, vidre ufrosebis?

_ Cemi azriT, ufrosebis `ev-rovizia~ ufro metad politizirebu-lia, vidre sabavSvo. garda amisa, Cven sworad vfuTavT warmodgenil pro-eqtebs, rac mas ufro sainteresosa da warmatebuls xdis. Tanac sabavSvo `evroviziaze~ naklebadaa skandalebi.

_ saqarTveloSi, `mziuris~ Sem-deg, ̀ bzikebi studio~ pirvelia, vinc am masStabis warmatebas miaRwia.

_ geTanxmebiT, marTlac asea. cota xnis win, gadaviReT Zalian saintereso videorgoli, sadac yvela `evrovizieli~ monawileobs. es yvelaferi keTdeba Cveni saxsre-biT da sawyenia, rom saqarTveloSi sabavSvo `evroviziiT~ sponsorebi ar interesdebian. arada, maTi dax-marebiT, kidev ufro metis gakeTebas SevZlebdiT.

31 patimari Tanamesaknis gaTavisuflebas iTxovs!orTaWalis cixis patimrebi uflebadamcvel da monitoringis jgufis wevrs, qeTevan adamians Tanamesaknis, 33 wlis alik ozmanianis janmrTelobis mdgomareobis Sesaxeb atyobineben da Sesabamis komisiebTan Suamdgomlobas sTxoven. gancxadebas xels 31 patimari awers. ̀ versias~ alik ozmanianis deda gozala avdoiani esaubra:

_ Cemi Svili avad aris, ver sunTqavs, ver laparakobs, ver dadis, Zalian mZimed aris, `paraliCi~ aqvs. 2 welia, saSineli tkivili awuxebs. saTanadod ver mkurnaloben. marto gamayuCeblebs ukeTeben. amas misi Tanamesakneebic adastureben. imdenad mZimedaa, rom wvers ver iparsavs, sakvebsac patara bavSviviT aWmeven. sapirfareSoSic Tanamesakneebs SehyavT, ucvlian da urecxaven tansac-melsa da TeTreuls.

_ Tqveni Svili cixeSi ratom moxvda?_ viTom yaCaRoba moxda da am braldebiT gaasamar-

Tles. is iaffasiani narkotikis, `jefis~ momxmarebeli iyo da dapatimrebamdec gonebaze ukve aRar iyo. axla ufro cudad aris. im cixeSi janmrTeli adamianic ki daavaddeba da avadmyofs ra mouva?!

_ ramdeni welia, cixeSia?_ 10 weli aqvs misjili, mxolod 2 weli da 8 Tvea zis.

narkotikebis moxmarebis gamo avad iyo. misi moyvana badragsac gauWirda.

_ daxmarebis saTxovnelad aravisTvis migimarTavT? _ sasjelaRsrulebis yofil ministrs, xaTuna kal-

maxeliZes mivmarTe, magram uSedegod. axla departamen-tis direqtors, maia xasias Sevxvdi. umZimes daavadeb-ulTa siaSi ki Seiyvanes, magram ra iqneba, ar vici. vTxov yvelas, iqneb gaaTavisuflon. misi dakavebiT mTlianad gavubedurdiT, alikas ojaxi daengra da col-Svilic dakarga.

kukiaze, iezidebis ubanSi, barakSi, saSinel siRatakeSi vcxovrob. marto me vyavar patroni. ra vqna, skolaSi damlageblad vmuSaob da puris fulia Cemi xelfasi. im-denad miWirs, patimari SvilisTvis medikamentebsac ver vyidulob. vTxov, sasjelaRsrulebis ministrs, baton sozar subars, naxos, Cemi Svili ra mdgomareobaSia, ro-gor pirobebSi ixdis sapatimro vadas da cixidan gauSvas.

nino xarSilaZe

naTia vasaZe

#141 (748) 10 - 11 dekemberi, 2012 weli 11

gamoxmaureba

manana oniani: `me maqvs xelfasi, romlis dakargvis safrTxis winaSe mayenebs `ocnebis~

Stabis usindiso ambiciebi da cru braldebebi!~

_ me wavikiTxe masala _ Tqveni interviu gogi liparte-lianTan, sadac saubaria, rom lentexSi saarCevno komisiam arCevnebi totalurad gaayalba. amaze mTavari xelmomweri ki me, saolqo komisiis Tavmjdomare gamovdivar. diax, aris ramdenime oqmi, sadac daSvebulia teqnikuri, meqanikuri xasi-aTis Secdomebi, magram Cven gveZleva saSualeba, rom gvqondes Casworebis oqmi.

_ arada, es Secdomebi arc ise meqanikuria, rogorc amas `ocnebis~ saarCevno Stabi acxadebda _ maT 23-dan ram-denime ubani moiges, magram iqac ki iTxovdnen arCevnebis Sedegebis gauqmebas.

_ momiyvanos erTi faqti maTi saarCevno Stabis ufrosma Tamaz TurmaniZem, roca Tundac agitacias eweoda komisiis romelime warmomadgeneli! ar minda polemikaSi Sesvla yofil kandidat gia gazdelianTan, amitom movides is TurmaniZe da me melaparakos. me moviyvan faqtebs, ras rogor akeTebdnen, maT ki daasaxelon Tundac erTi SemTxveva, saolqo Tu saubno komisiaSi, roca maTi uflebebi dairRva!

_ isic iTqva, ̀ ocnebis~ 2 warmomadgeneli sadRac gaqra arCevnebis dReso.

_ videos iRebdnen yvela ubanze da ise iyvnen mobilizeb-ulni, gegoneba, omSi midiodnen, oRondac kanondarRvevebis faqti hqonodaT. gaiSifros is videoCanawerebi da gvaCvenon, sad wavida es xalxi?! bodiSi da, tualetSi gasvlis saSualeba ar hqondaT komisiis wevrebs, iseTi situacia iyo mTeli dRis ganmavlobaSi! mere Semoitanes saCivari saolqo saarCevno komisiaSi, sadac iTxovdnen, mTeli olqis Sedegi baTilad iqnas cnobilio. olqi ki ara, erTi ubanic rom cnon baTilad, amisTvis Zalian bevri ramaa saWiro. arc erTi saCivari arc erT ubanze ar mqonia da romc mqonoda, ubnis Sedegis gau-qmebisTvis erTi saCivari ar kmara. ubnis gauqmebisTvis, iq yalbi biuletenebi unda Sevides, yuTis mTlianoba dairRves, sakontrolo furclebs Soris Seusabamoba iyos da a.S. Sede-gebis gabaTilebisTvis xelmosaWidi araferi aqvT!

_ Tumca, Tqven gaqvT gadasworebuli oqmebi, aseve orma adamianma lentexSi piradobis mowmobis gareSe misca xma. ase iyo?

_ komisiis mdivanma, 300 proporciuli da 300 maJori-tarulis nacvlad, miRebul biuletenTa raodenobaSi 600 Cawera. es meqanikuri Secdomaa, rac Sesworebis oqmSi gasworda da Tqven es oqmi mogitaneT. is mdivani pirvelad iyo ubanSi da ra vqna?! ase mouvida, magram aq maqvs sabuTi, rom im mecxre ubanze, sadac maizer babluani gaxldaT komisiis wevri, yvelaferi gasworebulia. arCevnebis Sem-deg ki maizeri ukve lentexis policiis ufrosi gaxda. im policiis ufrosobas, geficebiT, ukve dezinformaciiTa da cru braldebebiT miaRwia _ undoda da iSova kidec samsaxuri, Cemi samsaxuris diskreditaciis xarjze! rac Seexeba kanondarRvevas, roca orma kacma piradobis mowmobis gareSe misca xma _ maT saxli daewvaT, komisiis wevrebma adami-anurad gauges, ase vTqvaT, da xma miacemines, magram es Sevida kenWisyris dRis CanawerTa wignSi darRvevad. maTi arCevnebze mosvla da xmis micema, Tundac gogisTvis, imitom undodaT, rom maTi saxli SeekeTebina! es araa danaSauli _ ivaniSvilis

madli Tu madlia, lipartelianis madli madli ar aris? _ sxvaTa Soris, Turme, dadioda lipartelianis xalxi

da `250 lari, erTi xmis sanacvlodo~, gaiZaxoda._ CemTan rom Semosuliyo am xasiaTis saCivari da reagireba

ar mqonoda, maSin viqnebodi damnaSave, magram rom ar Semosula, me ra meqna?! risi uflebac kanoniT mqonda, imas vakeTebdi. aranaklebad dadioda ocnebis xalxic, magram aq amaze sala-parakod ar movsulvar.

gia gazdelianma icis, razec axla vlaparakob, magram im TurmaniZes Tu vnaxav, masac vetyvi. TurmaniZem da babluanma ar icodnen lentexi!

gia kargi biWia, Rirseuli svani, kargi mamaa da kargi ojaxis patronia, magram ver vityvi, rom politikuri ideebi mosvenebas ar aZlevs. axla, arc gogia aqtiuri politikosi, magram qvemo svaneTis socialur mdgomareobas aumjobesebs! sxvaTa Soris, 54%-iT moiges ̀ nacionalebma~ da 70%-iT moigo lipartelianma.

_ axla ityvian, rom gogi lipartelianis davalebiT moxvediT amis saTqmelad da man fuli gadagixadaT.

_ Cemi motivaciaa, rom SemTxveviT wavikiTxe gazeTSi Tqveni interviu gogi lipartelianTan, davaqseroqse da movdivar am gazeTiT. 12 welia, Tu kidev meti, erTi da igive tansacmliT davdivar da aravisTvis araferi gamomirTmevia. me maqvs xelfasi da im xelfasis dakargvis saSiSroebis winaSe mayenebs `ocnebis~ Stabis usindiso ambiciebi da cru bral-debebi! arada, arCevnebis dRes darRvevac ar yofila, xmis daTvlis procesSic araferi momxdara.

saCivars rac Seexeba, babluani iuristia, iyo komisiis wevri, ̀ ocnebis~ Stabis wevri da arCevnebis mere gaxda polici-is ufrosi lentexSi! rac Seexeba saCivars, jer erTi, ̀ ocnebis~ komisiis wevrebma icodnen, rom arCevnebi kanondarRveviT ar Catarebula. maizer babluanmac gadasarevad icoda, rom ori dRis vadaSi unda gaesaCivrebina, Tu rame undoda, magram gaasaCivra dagvianebiT, raTa mere aqeT moecxo Cirqi sasamarT-losTvis, saqme ar ganixilao. rogor davijero, iuristma ar icoda saarCevno davebis vada?! amis Semdeg gaasaCivra quTai-sis saapelacioSi da arc ganixiles, radgan wina instanciis gadawyvetileba safuZvliani iyo. ramdenjerme sajarodac vTqvi, ̀ qarTuli ocnebis~ mesveurebma Seiswavlon, ra warmo-madgenlobac hyavdaT da hyavT lentexSi. kargi, CamTvaleT mxared, Cemi saqmea, xma imas mivce, visac minda, magram CamodiT lentexSi da, ikiTxeT, rogor Catarda arCevnebi da iyo Tu ara vinme saolqo komisiidan mikerZoebuli.

_ arCevnebis mere lentexSi, cudi procesebi wavida _ Zveli gamgebeli, `nacionali~ roman mukbaniani gadadga da `respublikeli~ soso mukbaniani dainiSna movaleobis Semsruleblad. axla situacia dalagda?

_ ver getyviT, soso mukbanianic iyo ̀ ocnebis~ StabSi, ma-gram sxvebs gamgeblad gaTvlili sxva vinme hyavdaT. saboloo jamSi, dRis bolos, roca xmebi Sejamda da naxes, rom maTTvis sasurveli Sedegebi ar iyo, aTasnairi tyuili aagores da cili damwames. maT rom rame xelmosaWidi hqondeT, rac romelime ubnis Sedegze gavlenas mainc moaxdens, gvaCvenebdnen, aseTi ki araferi aqvT!

vis Seaqvs sarCeli givi

TargamaZis winaaRmdeg

da ra interesi aqvs

`nacional~ deputats nino

burjanaZis deidaSvilis,

zviad beraZis mimarT

naTia korkotaZe: `TargamaZes amiriZisa da oTanaZis cixidan gamosvlis eSinia, radgan isini yvelafers naTels mohfenen!~

givi TargamaZesTan skandaluri intervius Semdeg `versias~ im ramdenime piris advokati gamoexmaura, visi politpatimarTa siaSi Seyvanac deputatma gansakuTrebiT gaaprotesta. `CaxedeT siaSi meSvide nomers _ zviad be-raZe aris adamiani, romelic kaciskvlaze wavida. rogorc nana kakabaZem ganacxada, misi am siaSi Seyvanis erTaderTi safuZveli isaa, rom Cemi Zmis megobariao~, _ acxadebda saubrisas TargamaZe. rogorc naTia korkotaZe, zviad beraZis advokati miiCnevs, TargamaZes beraZis mimarT gan-sakuTrebuli interesi mxolod imitom aqvs, rom igi nino burjanaZis deidaSvilia _ advokati `versias~ Tavad dau-kavSirda da ramdenime saintereso gancxadebac gaakeTa: `me wavikiTxe Tqveni statia _ `skandaluri interviu, ris gamoc givi TargamaZes daiWeren~, sadac erT-erTi kiTxvis Semdeg, TargamaZe politpatimrebis siaSi meSvide nomrad Seyvanil zviad beraZeze ambobs, is kaciskvlaze wavida. Za-lian cdeba givi TargamaZe da minda vuTxra _ zviad beraZe aris nino burjanaZis deidaSvili. igi dakavebulia 236-e muxlis pirveli da meore nawiliT. mas iaraRi saerTod ar unaxavs, iaraRi sasamarTlo procesze moitanes. igi 2011 wlis 26 maiss daakaves da eWvi maqvs, givi TargamaZes mis mimarT sxva interesi aqvs _ kargad Seiswavlos misi ̀ dana-Sauli~ da cili ise daswamos! TargamaZe bevr rames kadru-lobs, radgan me samuSao jgufSic viyavi, var helsinkis jgufSi, sadac 2007 wlidan ixileboda politpatimrebis sakiTxi, ase rom, TargamaZe rom ambobs, TiTqos, guSin da guSinwin daiwyo es procesi da xazs `kakabaZe-beselias sias~ usvams, mtknari tyuili da sazogadoebis SecdomaSi Seyvanaa. 2007 wlidan, visac maTi reJimis moqmedebebis gamo gancxadebebi Semohqonda, yvelas saqmes vixilavdiT da yvela arc maSin gviRiarebia politpatimrad. rac Seexeba beraZes _ igi burjanaZis deidaSvilia da lado bedukaZesac aqvs naTqvami, rom Turme, cixeSi ambobdnen, burjanaZis deidaSvili Semodis, cema ar gabedoT, magram fizikuri zemoqmedeba moaxdineTo. zviads 2 kvira dasa-wolic ar hqonda, magram CvenTvis ar uTqvams. bevr sxva araadamianur qmedebasac hqonda mis mimarT adgili. nino burjanaZesTan naTesaobis garda, zviad beraZisadmi sxva interesi ar SeiZleba iyos. igi daakaves 21 maiss, roca saprotesto aqciebi iwyeboda. 12 saaTze gamovida Tavis meuRlesTan erTad, supermarketSi da gzaSi aiyvanes~.

givi TargamaZis kidev erTi pasaJi, rasac advokati exmau-reba, ̀ nacionaluri moZraobis~ rigebidan opoziciaSi gada-sul aqtivists, merab maisuraZes exeba, romelic mmarTveli partiis naZaladevis raionuli organizaciis Tavmjdo-mare iyo da amis mere gaxda `daicavi saqarTvelos~ wevri. naTia korkotaZe: ̀ merabis xsenebas Tavi daanebos givi TargamaZem, es adamianic Cemi dacvis qveS myofia da is, rac moxda, TargamaZis provocirebuli iyo, radgan kaci manamde maTTan muSaobda, magram roca am reJimis saxe dainaxa, wamovida opoziciaSi da zustadac, yvelafers ukeTebda opozicias, rom es xelisufleba wasuliyo~.

naTia korkotaZea gardacvlili gia krialaSvilis ojaxis interesebis damcvelic, romelsac, oTanaZesTan givi Targa-maZe qveynis gadatrialebis recidivistebs uwodebs. rogorc irkveva, gancxadeba maTi bralis gadasinjvis Sesaxeb, proku-raturaSi ukve Setanilia da araa gamoricxuli, axali saqme givi TargamaZis winaaRmdegac aRiZras, romelic daRupuli krialaSvilis gvamis cemasa da Seuracxyofas interviuSic uaryofda. naTia korkotaZe: ̀ me gia krialaSvilis ojaxis interesebsac vicav. krialaSvili, oTanaZe da amiriZe erT-droulad waiyvanes sapatimroSi. krialaSvils wixlebs urtyamda da mkvdars scemda givi TargamaZe, tutuci, Tavxedi _ recidivisti da uzneo TviTon aris! cnobilia, rom oTanaZes TiTebi dauxvrites! mas imitom eSinia ami-riZisa da oTanaZis cixidan gamosvlis, rom isini yvelafers naTels mohfenen! am adamianebma TavianT advokatebs inter-viuc misces. ukve Setanilia sarCeli prokuraturaSi _ viTxovT gamoZiebis Tavidan dawyebas da gia krialaSvilis reabilitacias. ra Tqma unda, sarCeli TargamaZesac Seexeba _ rogorc Cven viciT, TargamaZe, merabiSvili da ugulava iq brZandebodnen, roca krialaSvilis daxvreta da likvida-cia moxda. am dros, vano merabiSvilma saakaSvils daureka da uTxra, miSa, yvela likvidirebuliao. mas egona, rom samive adamiani mkvdari iyo, magram darCa ori mowme. oTanaZesac da amiriZesac Setanili aqvT ganaCenis gadaxedvis Sesaxeb sarCeli da mec, rogorc krialaSvilis ojaxis advokatma, gancxadeba prokuraturaSi ukve Sevitane~.

nino komaxiZe

`versiaSi~ gamoqveynda interviu lentexis maJoritar deputatTan gogi lipartelianTan, sadac saubari iyo 1 oqtombris arCevnebSi ̀ ocnebis~ Stabis braldebebzec. ramdenime dReSi ̀ versias~ lentexidan saolqo saarCevno komisiis Tavmjdomare, manana oniani estumra, romelmac replikis saxiT, mcire ganmarteba iTxova, Sesabamisi dokumentaciac moitana da ganacxada, rom ̀ ocnebis~ braldebebi safrTxes uqmnis mis postze yofnas. ̀ versiam~ lentexidan Camosul stumars ganmartebebis gakeTebis saSualeba misca da ramdenime kiTxvac dausva:

nino komaxiZe

politika

#141 (748) 10 - 11 dekemberi, 2012 weli12

gela qoqiaSvili

Tbilisidan Telavis mimarTulebiT daZ-rulebs dila ujarmaSi gviTendeba. amjerad Turdos xeobaSi is Zegli gvainteresebs, romelsac giorgi CubinaSvili ucnauri sax-eliT _ kuntusiT moixseniebs. rogorc Sem-deg davadgineT, kunti is balaxia, romelsac kakabi etaneba.

raki Zeglis miaxlovebiTi koordinatebi viciT, sofel TeTrwylebSi vCerdebiT da vcdilobT, kuntusis saydris zusti mde-bareoba soflelebisgan SevityoT.

didi sja-baasis Semdeg soflis gamge-belTan mgzavnian, gamgebeli metyevesTan maka-vSirebs, metyeve ki mZRolTan _ gza misnairad aravin iciso.

tyis mcodne mZRols _ gia maisuraZes Telavidan amosvla agviandeba, magram `mer-sedesidan~ `gaz-66~-ze abargebulebi Tavs mainc bednierad vgrZnobT _ kuntusis eklesia veRarsad dagvemaleba. rogorc irkveva, Tur-dos WaliT unda vimgzavroT, sadac sxva verc erTi manqana ver gaivlis.

gzas Telavis mimarTulebiT vagrZelebT, Turdoze gadebul xidTan, xelmarjvniv WalaSi veSvebiT da mdinares aRma mivuyvebiT. Wala uSvelebeli lodebiTaa mofenili, erT dros TelavisTvis sasmeli wylis gayvanisas traqtorebiT gakvaluli gza aRar Cans. 3 ki-lometris gavlas 40 wuTs vandomebT. Cvengan xelmarcxniv, qedze mrisxane cixis naSali moCans. es fsitis cixea. qarafisa da masiuri tyis gamo, igi Cveni mxridan miuvalia. zeviT moxvedra SuamTis monastridan SeiZleba mxolod. bilikebis sigrZe daaxloebiT 6 ki-lometria. rogorc Semdeg SevityveT, cixeze SemorCenilia Suaze gapobili erTi donJoni, sxva ori koSkisa da galavnis fragmentebi. iqvea patara samlocvelos umniSvnelo naSTic. am cixesimagres, rogorc giorgi CubinaSvili wers, meore saxelic hqonia _ feitani. fsitis cixe pirvelad kaxeTis mefis aleqsandre II-is (XVI s-is meore naxevari) erT-erT sabuTSia nax-senebi. rogorc Cans, igi am dros ganaxlebula. profesor daviT musxeliSvils saqarTvelos istoriis atlasze igi XIV saukunidan aqvs datanebuli, magram SeuZlebelia manamde sxva bastioni ar mdgariyo. saqme is aris, rom fsitis cixe aRmarTulia gomboris qedis CrdiloeT Stoze anu Sua mTaze, romelic uZveles droSi kaxeTs hereTidan gamoyofda da pirobiT sazRvars warmoadgenda. fsitis cixe ujarma-boWorma-gulgula-lopotas simagreTa jaWvis Sua rgoli unda yofiliyo XIV saukunemde. garda amisa, mas Turdos xeobaSi gamavali kax-eTis Sida gzac unda gaekontrolebina. fsitis cixe pirvelad, albaT, 1399 wels daingra, roca Temur-lengma VI Semosevis dros boWormidan Telavisken ilaSqra. rogorc irkveva, kaxeTis SorsmWvretelma mefe aleqsandrem cixes 1587 wels aRudgina funqcia (Tu ratom am wels, odnav qveviT SevityobT). cixe meored, albaT, 1619 wels daingra, roca ukve Sah-abasis laSqa-rma gaiara aq.

... iq, sadac fsitis cixea, Turdosxevs samxreTidan fsitisxevi uerTdeba da axla mis lodovan Walas mivuyvebiT. oriod kilome-

tyeSi CaZiruli

kuntusi

qvaTa matiane

Turdos xeoba

tris gavlis Semdeg, xelmarjvniv vux-vevT da daburul tyeSi SevdivarT. es gza (gzas pirobiTad vambob) kidev ufro saSinelia: lodebi, muxls ze-moT talaxi, waqceuli xeebi... orjer jalambris gamoyeneba gviwevs. kidev erTi kilometri da Zegls mivadeqiT.

taZari nagebia riyis qviTa da aguriT, romlis gamoyeneba kax-eTSi, qarTlTan SedarebiT, gac-ilebiT adre daiwyo. konstruqci-ul nawilebSi Sirimis Tlili qvaa gamoyenebuli. Cvens winaSea moz-rdili jvargumbaTovani taZari (21 X 18 m), romelsac sakmaod farTo gumbaTis yeli hqonia. igi afrebiT eyrdnoboda oTxi mklavis mxrebs. aRmosavleTisa da dasavleTis mklavebi ramdenadme grZelia, vi-dre samxreTisa da CrTiloeTisa.

saydars sami Sesasvleli aqvs (samxreTis, dasavleTis, Crdilo-eTis). absidiani da konqiani mxolod aRmosavleTis mklavia. absidis marjvniv da marcxniv damoukide-beli sadiakvno da samkveTloa. sam-kveTlos Sesasvleli arqitravuli yofila, rasac adasturebs marjvena wirTxlze SemorCenili balavris natexi. masze asomTavruli qarTuli warweris nawilia Semonaxuli. bala-vris danarCeni ori mesamedi, anu kidev ori natexi, Telavis muzeumSi inaxeba. Tu balavars aRvadgenT, aqa-iq dazianebuli warwera, T. barnavelis gaSifvris mixedviT, ase ikiTxeba: `hoi yovelTa naSobTa...umetes da winaswarmqadagebelo sityvisa RmrTisao, winamorbedo qristesa ioane. Cven msasoebelman cvafar...viTa SenTa ma...aleqsandre xelvyav meored Senebad da mkobad taZrisa Senisa salocvelad da sulisa Cvenisa saxsrad, amin. qoronikonisa soe (e.i. 1587 w. g.q.).~ es is welia, roca kaxeTis samefosa da ruseTs Soris samokavSireo xelSekruleba daido da kaxeTma ori wlis Semdeg `wyalobis sigeli~ miiRo. qarTlis mefis, svimon pirvelisgan gansxvavebiT, aleqsandre II Tavis samefos xmalze metad gonebiT da diplomatiuri gamWriaxobiT marTavda da cixe-taZarTa aR-dgeniTac gamoirCeoda. swored es gvafiqre-binebs, rom igi, kuntusis `naTlismcem-lisa~ da SuamTis monastris paralelurad, imave Turdos xeobaSi mdgar fsitis cix-esac 1587 wels aRadgenda.

Sah-abazis kaxeTSi laSqrobis Sedegad

fsitis cixe

meored dangreuli kuntusis eklesiis aRd-gena momdevno xanebSi kidev erTxel ucdiaT, magram saqme bolomde veRar miuyveniaT. amaze migvaniSnebs gumbaTis yelis moxsna _ igi erT donezea mokveTili. igive iTqmis ukamarod datovebuli mklavebis Sesaxeb.

kuntusis jvargumbaTovani saydari bolo kvlevis sagani 1934-1935 wlebSi gaxda, roca igi giorgi CubinaSvilma da niko berZeniS-vilma Seiswavles. im dros gadaRebuli fo-tos Tanaxmad, taZari ase Rrmad ar yofila tyeSi Cakarguli. mas Semdeg viRac madliani acocebula kedlebze da zed amosuli mcena-reebi mouWria. samwuxarod, mas irgvliv aR-mocenebuli uSvelebeli xeebis gakafva ver gaubedavs dRes es xeebi ise Crdilavs Zegls, rom fasadebis, metadre ki aRmosavleTis niSebiani kedlis dafiqsireba Zalian Wirs.

ibadeba SekiTxva: X-XIII saukuneTa taZari mudam aseTi miudgomeli iyo da mxolod dayudebul berebs emsax-ureboda Tu xeobis mosaxleobis erT-erTi aRiarebuli samlocve-lo gaxldaT?

sofel TeTrwylebis amJa-mindeli mkvidrebisTvis rom ucxoa Zegli, es ori faqtiTac dasturdeba: aq verc danTebuli sanTlis kvals miagnebT da verc sadme gadanaxul sadResaswaulo inventars. soflidan Camomaval saurme gzaze da bilikze xom saubaric zedmetia. amis mizezi TeTrwylebis mosaxleobis cvla unda iyos. gaukacrielebul nasoflarSi XX saukunis da-sawyisSi fSav-xevsureTidan Camosaxlebuli gvarebi: jRu-TaSvilebi, wiklaurebi, kara-tielebi, TeTraulebi, arabule-bi, gogoWurebi, WinWaraulebi, ficxelaurebi, qeTelaurebi da kariaulebi dafuZnebulan. kun-tusis `naTlismcemelTan~ ufro axlosaa nasoflari, romelsac axla naqalaqar alags uwodeben da Turdosxevis saTave Senakadis _ qajixevis Tavze mdebareobs. XVI-XVII saukuneebSi aqauroba udavod, sxvagvarad gamoiyureboda.

vtovebT kuntusis da fsitis cixis midamoebs da centralur magistralze gamovdivarT. amis mere mcire xniT SuamTis cnobil monasterSi vCerdebiT da Turdos xeobas Tavqve mivuyvebiT, raTa mdinaris marcxena sanapiroze Sefenili ruispiri movinaxuloT.

mogzauroba

gza tyeSi

`naTlismcemlis~ gare da Sida xedebi

aleqsandre mefis warwera

a v t o r i s f o t o e b i

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sporti

isev gaerTianebul rusul ideebs ra vuyoT

kremlis axali politikuri

TamaSi koduri saxelwodebiT

`sabWoTa kavSiris Cempionatis aRdgena~

XX saukunis 80-90-ian wlebSi sabWoTa kavSirSi politikur-ekonomikurma da sulierma krizisma wiTeli imperia daSala. komunisturma drakonma kontroli jer aRmosavleT evropaze dakarga, xolo misi mze, sabolood, 1991 wlis 26 dekembers Caesvena, rodesac ruseTis, ukrainisa da belorusis prezidentebma sabWoTa kavSiris daSla oficialurad gamoacxades – msoflios 1/6-ze gafenili uzarmazari saxelmwifos nacvlad, 15 damoukidebeli saxelmwifo aRdga. Tumca, mas Semdeg rusebi sxvadasxa xerxiT cdilobdnen dominanturi poziciis aRdgenas. yofili `ZerJava~ politikuri miznis ganxorcielebas sportuli proeqtebiTac cdilobda.

gazpromis safexburTo-

politikuri proeqti

erT-erTi aseTi `sakenki~ noembris bo-los, umZlavresi kompania `gazpromis~ xelmZRvanelma aleqsei milerma peter-burgis `zenitis~ oficialur vebgverdTan micemul interviuSi gaaJRera (`gazpromi~ am klubis mTavari damfinansebelia):

`SesaZloa, ̀ zenitma~ ruseTis premier-liga datovos da damoukidebeli saxelm-wifoebis Tanamegobrobis CempionatSi iTamaSos. mimaCnia, rom yofili postsab-WoTa respublikebi erTian safexburTo samyaroSi unda gaerTiandnen da erTiani Cempionati daafuZnon. mec da `gaz-promic~ am ideis aqtiuri mxardamWerni varT. am Temaze seriozul adamianebTan ukve vilaparake. praqtikul samuSaoebsa da molaparakebebs vawarmoebT da uax-loes xanebSi bevr kiTxvas gaecema pasuxi. dRes mxolod imis Tqma SeiZleba, rom axali Cempionatis safuZveli rusulma da ukrainulma klubebma unda Seqmnan~.

realurad, sportuli iniciativa poli-tikuri Seferilobis aris da ra Tqma unda, `gazpromis~ Tavkaci ruseTis politikuri elitis mxardaWeris gareSe ver gaaJRereb-da. SesaZloa, sulac kremlis mier iyos inicirebuli. es iqidanac dasturebda, rom ideis tiraJireba rusulma samTavrobo me-diasaSualebebma daiwyes.

am varaudis kidev erTi da yvelaze Tval-saCino dasturi: kremlma Ria mxardaWera daafiqsira.

kremlis Tanadgoma

garantirebulia

ruseTis prezidentis administraciis xelmZRvanelma sergei ivanovma sensaci-uri aRiareba gaakeTa: Turme, iniciativa jer kidev erTi wlis win ganixila.

`turnirSi, sadac ̀ es-en-ges~ 3-5 qveynis klubebi iTamaSeben, sportuli kuTxiT ufro Zlieri da sanaxaobrivi iqneba, vidre nebismieri monawile qveynis erovnuli Cempionati. es ukve moxda hokeisa da ka-laTburTSi. gaerTianebuli turniris idea rusuli klubebis mepatroneebTan erTad, jer kidev erTi wlis win ganvixi-leT. magram maSin es iyo mxolod idea da meti araferi. dReisTvis, am proeqtis ganxorcieleba SeuZlebelia, radgan mra-vali gadauwyveteli problemaa. magram bolo dros, uefa-m regionuli turnirebis mimarT pozicia Seicvala da amdenad, problemis gadawyveta SesaZlebeli gaxda – vgulisxmob regionuli turniridan evroTasebze sagzurebis ganawilebas. magaliTad, litva da latvia erTiani Cem-pionatis dafuZnebas ukve cdiloben, igive xdeba evropis sxva regionebSic. realurad, gaerTianebuli liga komerciuli turniri iqneba, romlis Semosavlebi damokidebuli iqneba mayurebelTa daswrebaze, bileTebis gayidvaze, sponsorTa interesze da safex-burTo matCebTan dakavSirebul biznesze. ar veTanxmebi maT, visac sporti social-uri sfero hgonia, es aris biznesi da mas Sesabamisadac unda moveqceT~.

mileris iniciativa uceb aitaces ruse-Tis premierligis mowinave gundebma. maT Soris, `gazpromis~ dafinansebulma cska-m da rusuli bizneselitis warmomadgenlis, suleiman kerimovis maxaCyalis `anJi~.

`Cven turniris sportuli da komerci-uli kuTxiT davinteresdiT. aSkaraa, rom bevrad ufro momgebianad gavyidiT satele-vizio uflebebs da es Cvens Semosavlebs mniSvnelovnad gazrdis. Tumca, bevri kiTxva arsebobs, magaliTad, rogorc ganawildeba evroTasebis sagzurebi, daxuruli liga iqneba Tu regionuli turnirebis Semdeg gairkveva monawileTa vinaoba. rogorc Cans, Tu am ideis ganxorcielebas wlebi dasWird-eba~, _ ganacxada `anJis~ generalurma direq-torma aivaz kaziaxmetovma.

somxeT-azerbaijani _ kvlav

dapirispireba

erTian Cempionatze adrec araerTxel ulaparakiaT, Tumca `gazpromis~ iniciati-vas mainc sxva fasi daedo da ruseTis poli-tikur partnior qveynebSic aitaces. sxvaTa Soris, mileris gancxadebamde, msgavsi wi-nadadeba somxeTis fexburTis federaciam wamoayena.

`Tanamegobrobis qveynebis erovnul CempionatebSi mravlad arian gundebi, romlebmac aRiareba aramxolod qveynis SigniT, msoflio masStabiTac moipoves. Cven darwmunebulni varT, rom maTi erT CempionatSi moqceva turnirSi gaer-Tianebul saxelmwifoebSi saklubo da erovnuli nakrebebis dones gazrdis.

Cven adrec gamovdiodiT aseTi inicia-tiviT da axla, roca am ideis realizaci-isTvis niadagi arsebobs, ufro davrw-mundiT, rom mas momxreebi dsT-is sxva wevri qveynebis fexburTis federaciebSic gamouCndeba. somxeTis fexburTis federa-cia mouwodebs maT aqtiuri dialogisa da TanamSromlobisken, raTa dsT-s qveynebis safexburTo Cempionati uaxloes moma-valSi Catardes~, _ vkiTxulobT somxeTis fexburTis federaciis gancxadebaSi.

absoluturad gansxvavebuli pozicia daafiqsira azerbaijanis fexburTis fed-eraciis prezidentma ramin musaevma:

`Cven am sakiTxze arc gvimsjelia, radgan rusebTan saerTo turnirSi ar viTamaSebT. sawyenad ar miiRoT, magram ruseTis fexburTSi bevri iseTi ram xdeba, rac Cven ar mogvwons. Zalian bevri Zlieri gundi da moTamaSe gyavT, magram

ruseTSi msajebi saSinelebebs sCadian. zogjer TamaSi grZeldeba manam, sanam romelime gundisTvis sasurveli SedegiT ar dasruldeba. am kuTxiT, azerbaijanSi bevrad ukeTesi viTarebaa. am turniris sawinaaRmdegod finansuri argumentebic gagvaCnia. Cvens klubebs mZime tvirTad daawvebaT ruseTSi transportireba da sastumroebSi xangrZlivi dabinaveba. sxva saqmea turniris mosamzadebel etapze Cat-areba. yvela federacia saprizo fondSi sawevros Seitanda da gunds waradgenda. saa-misod Cven yovelTvis mzad varT. israelSi msgavsi turniri ukve imarTeboda, sadac rusuli da ukrainuli klubebi erTmaneTs ruseTis ̀ pirveli arxis~ Tass ecilebodnen. ase saintereso ar yofila ̀ Tanamegobrobis Tasi~. kargad maxsovs, 2005 wels am gaTa-maSebis finalSi baqos `nefTCi~ moskovis `lokomotivs~ 1:0-s ugebda, rodesac Cveni Tavdamsxmeli mekaresTan pirispir gavida da TamaSgare daufiqsires. aRvSfoTdi, magram ruseTis safexburTo kavSiris maSin-deli prezidentis, vitali mutkos frazam ufro gamaogna: `Sen ginda, rom rusul klubs Tasi moskovSi waarTva?~

gekiTxebiT, es sportia? Cven es arafer-Si gvWirdeba... ra mniSvneloba aqvs, mos-kovSi vTamaSobT Tu ara? sxvaTa Soris, im Sexvedras moskoveli msajebi emsax-

urebodnen. amis Semdeg romel patiosan TamaSze laparakobT?~

miSel platini - uefa-Si proeqtis

gatana gaWirdeba

uefa turniris ganxorcielebis ideas ar ganixilavs, Tumca dialogisTvis mzad aris. amis Taobaze uefa-s generalurma mdivanma jani infantinom ganacxada da amiT taqti-

giorgi maisuraZe

anad mianiSna, rom sirTules evroTasebze monawileobis kvotebis Tema warmoqmnis. be-lorusis, ukrainisa da azerbaijanis warmo-madgenelTa komentarebSic es kiTxva daisva.

`mesmis, rom am ideas nostalgia ganapi-robebs, _ Tqva uefa-s prezidentma miSel platinim, _ magaliTad, iugoslaviis yo-fil qveynebSi axla Cempionatis matCebs 1000-mde adamiani eswreba, rodesac adre 50 aTasi mayurebeli Cveulebrivi movlena iyo. aseT mdgomareobamde istoriulma movlenebma migviyvana.

kargad mesmis, rom ekonomikuri krizisis dros, patara qveynebs damoukide-blad arseboba, Semosavlebis miReba da telekontraqtebis gaformeba uWirT. amitom gadarCenas regionul turnirebSi xedaven. piradad mec ase mimaCnia da re-gionul turnirebze diskusiisTvis mzad var. magram uefa-s aRmaskomsa da kongresze gacilebiT Zneli ganxilva iqneba~.

saqarTvelo TamaSgareSi

Temis ganxilvisas, ramdenjerme saqa-rTveloc axsenes. magaliTad, cnobili mwvrTneli anatoli biSoveci miiCnevs, rom samxreT kavkasiisa da aziis qveynebi ver iTamaSeben, mizezad ki am qveynebSi arsebuli ekonomikuri krizisi daasaxela.

rogorc Cans, kremli ssrk-s Cempionatis aRdgenas did mniSvnelobas aniWebs, razec sergei ivanovi iseT detalebs Seexo, riTic, wesiT, misi donis politikosi ar unda in-teresdebodes. ruseTis prezidentis ad-ministraciis informaciiT, gaerTianebul CempionatebSi monawileobis survili ukve gamoTqva 4-ma wamyvanma ukrainulma klubma, kievis `dinamom~, doneckis `Saxtarma~, dnepropetrovskis `dniprom~ da xarkovis `metalistma~. `gazpromis~ xelmZRvanelis winadadebas ukrainaSi marTlac dadebiTad Sexvdnen. igive moxda belorusSi: borisovos `bates~ xelmZRvaneloba turniriT dain-teresda. ukrainis fexburTis federacia dsT-s Cempionatis perspeqtivas ganixilavs, magram vice-prezidentma anatoli popovma rTulad gansaxorcielebeli proeqti uwoda.

meore sakiTxi: rusuli mxare organizato-rad sakuTar Tavs warmoidgens, rac sxvebisT-vis miuRebelia. gaerTianeba romelime dam-fuZneblis dominantobas da ufros Zmobas ar iTvaliswinebs. rusebs ki berketebis xelSi Cagdeba surT. aleqsei mileris winadadeba espanurma gamocema ̀ markam~ kargad monaTla _ ruseTi sabWoTa Cempionatis aRdgenas gegmavs. `nefTCis~ vice-prezidentma tair suleimanovma ganacxada, rom klubi turnirs mxolod im SemTxvevaSi SeuerTdeba, Tu is uefa-s egidiT Catardeba da ara _ ruseTis safexburTo kavSiris xelmZRvanelobiT.

aseTi ram ukve gvaxsovs: litvuri, latviuri da estonuri klubebi balti-ispireTis ligis gaTa-maSebaSi monawileobdnen, daniis, SvedeTisa da nor-vegiis klubebi _ samefo ligaze da orive turniri uefa-s egidiT tardeboda.

azriani kiTxva kievis `dinamos~ yofilma fex-burTelma vladislav prudiusma dasva – Tu er-Tiani federacia Seiqmne-ba, statuss ukraina daT-mobs Tu ruseTi?

cxadia, ruseTi pirvel-obas ar daTmobs, radgan isedac naTelia, es pro-eqti kremlSi ra mizniT daigegma – `ZerJava~ saku-Tari gavlenis xazgasmas sportSic Seecdeba.

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daijesti

yvelas axsovs, albaT, sabWour periodSi loginis TeT-reuli rom ZiriTadad, TeTri feris an zoliani iyo. axla ki mTeli sawarmoebi cdiloben iseTi TeTreulis Seqmnas, rac interieris nawilad iqceva. ras aRar SexvdebiT dRes _ multfilmebis motivebidan dawyebuli, sakuTari fotoTi dasrulebuli. axla ki am CamonaTvals Sokoladis sawolic Seemata. rasakvirvelia, is namdvili Sokoladis filebisgan ar aris damzadebuli, Tumca, tkbileulis moyvarulebi arc am piris Casatkbaruneblis gamosaxulebian TeTreulze daZine-bas iuarebdnen. aseTi uCveulo `tkbili~ zewari, baliSispiri da sabnis piri avstraliurma kompaniam Bed Toppings daamzada, romelic aseT kreatiul saZile atributebze muSaobs. `madis aRmZvreli~ TeTreulis koleqciaSi aqvT aseve buterbrodebi-sa da konservebis TeTreulic.

avstralielebi Sokoladis sawolSi nebivroben

xSirad gvaviwydeba xolme, rom yvela drois cno-bili da popularuli personebi, romlebic wiTeli xaliCis xSiri stumrebi arian, iseTive Cveulebrivi adamianebi gaxlavT TavianTi sixaruliTa Tu SiSiT, rogorc ubralo mokvdavebi. Tumca, unda iTqvas, rom zogierT maTgans iseTi ucnauri fobia awuxebs, rom warmodgenac ki gagviWirdeba. magaliTad, gasaocaria, rogor moaxerxa napoleon bonapartma TiTqmis naxevari evropis dapyroba, roca cxenebis, gansakuTrebiT, TeTri feris cxenebis eSinoda. msgavsi fobia awuxebs zogierT Tanamedrove varskv-lavsac: kristen stiuarti, misive aRiarebiT, cxra wlisa cxenidan Camovarda da xeli moitexa. mas Sem-deg ver itans am cxovels. msaxiobs mTeli simamacis mokreba da lamis, sikvdilTan moralurad Segueba mouxda, rom filmSi `fifqia da monadire~ sakmaod vaJkacurad mjdariyo cxenze. nikol kidmans, am wiTurTmian lamazmans, Turme, peplebis eSinia. bavSvobaSi maRal Robeebs axteboda, am mwerebs ar miaxloeboda. nikolis TqmiT, is cdilobda am ucnauri SiSis daZlevas, magram warumateblad. ai, cnobilma amerikelma supermodelma, tiara beqsma moaxerxa fobiis daZleva. mas delfinebTan miaxloe-ba ki ara, maTze laparakic aSinebda. mas Semdeg, rac am cxovelebTan erTad icurava da erT-erTs akoca kidec, modelma aRiara, rom am ZuZumwovrebs aRar ufrTxis. sayovelTaod cnobilia, rom popularu-li britaneli fexburTeli devid beqhemi ver itans katebs, msaxiob orlando blums Rorebis eSinia, kristina riCis ki _ zvigenebis da amis gamo is auzSi banaobazec uars ambobs.

bevr varskvlavs ki Tanamedrove teqnologiebis epoqaSi uWirs cxovreba, radgan maT sxvadasxva gamogoneba aSinebT. mamakacuri da nebismier asakSi momxibvleli Son koneri aRiarebs, rom SuqniSnebis mimarT panikuri SiSi aqvs. mas guli uskdeba imis gafiqrebaze, Tu ra SeiZleba moxdes, gzaze gadas-vlisas mwvane Suqi moulodnelad rom Caqres. misi kolega da `memkvidre~, anu kidev erTi `agenti 007~ rojer muri, Turme, cecxlsasrol iaraRs ufrTxis. cnobil reJisors stiven spilbergs liftis fobia aqvs da cdilobs, Tavi aaridos `sarisko~ mgzavro-bas. momxibvleli kianu rivzi, Turme, telefonze laparaks ver itans. komikos jin qeris saTvalTva-lo kamerebis fobia hqonia, amis gamo sastumros no-merSi yvela naTuridan abaJurebis moxsnas iTxovs. TviTmfrinavebisa da frenis SiSi cnobil adamianeb-Si sakmaod gavrcelebulia, Tumca, profesiis gamo, iZulebulni arian, mas rogorme gaumklavdnen da xSirad ifrinon. adriano Celentanom ki ver SeZlo SiSis daZleva da dRemde is mxolod ramdenjerme ijda TviTmfrinavSi.

verminofobia _ mikorbebisa da baqteriebis

mimarT SiSia, aseve raime daavadebis `akidebis~ SiSi. es sakmaod gavrcelebuli fobiaa, maT Soris cno-bil adamianebSic. magaliTad, momRerali bionse, swored verminofobiis gamo, ver itans sapirfare-Soebs da sadac midis, yvelgan tualets dReSi ram-denjerme axexinebs. `lamazmani~ julia robertsi restornebSi iTxovs, rom specialurad misTvis ara mxolod WurWlis dezinficireba moaxdinon, aramed skamisac, romelzec unda dajdes. analogiurad iqceva xolme stiven sigalic, Tumca igi restor-nebSi sakuTari jam-WurWliT imis gamo dadis, rom mowamvlis eSinia.

warsulsac Tu gadavxedavT, marto popis mefis _ maikl jeksonis gaxseneba rad Rirs, niRbiT rom Cndeboda xalxSi. rusi poeti vladimer maiakovski cdilobda, rom Tavi aeridebina xelis CamorT-mevisTvis. nebismieri karis saxelurs cxvirsaxociT kidebda xels, tansacmlis adezinficirebda, Tan yovelTvis dahqonda iodi da sasapne, xangrZlivi mgzavrobisas ki gasaSlel abazanasac Tan atarebda. nizofobia _ avad gaxdomis SiSi stanjavda jan-Jak rusos, amis gamo yovelTvis gaurboda saubrebs medicinaze da am Temaze wignebs axlosac ar ekare-boda. arc eqimebs akiTxavda. msgavsi fobia sWirs robert de nirosac, romelic lamis panikaSi var-deba stomatologis gafiqrebazec ki. nizofobiis erT-erTi saxeoba, kerZod ki, simsivniT daavadebis SiSi awuxebs bevr varskvlavs _ anjelina jolis, viqtoria beqhems, vudi alens. viqtoriam kancero-fobiis gamo uari Tqva avtonamzeurze.

zogierT cnobil adamians ki namdvilad ar gaumarTla, radgan garSemomyofebTan urTierTo-bis SiSi aqvs. amaSi, SeiZleba cudi araferi iyos, Tu ledi gagas magaliTze vimsjelebT _ fobia mas `uweso~ intimur urTierTobebze aTqmevinebs uars. am epataJur momRerals eSinia, rom Seufere-beli partniori mis energetikaze damRupvelad imoqmedebs. onore de balzaki ki siyvarulisgan gardaicvala, ufro sworad, qorwinebis SiSis gamo. saxelganTqmul frang mwerals sastikad eSinoda daqorwinebis, xolo roca TavdaviwyebiT Seuyvarda evelina ganskaia da mas xeli sTxova, nerviulobis-gan avad gaxda. jvrisweraze balzaki paralizebuli, savarZelSi mjdari imyofeboda, mokle xanSi ki axlad SerTuli meuRle daaqvriva. aseTi tragediis fonze, klounebis mimarT SiSi, romelsac joni depi ganicdis, marTlac rom sasaciloa. Tumca, yvelaze cudi, albaT, mainc sakuTari saxis danaxvis SiSia. swored am fobiis gamo pamela andersoni ver itans sarkeebs da televizorsac yovelTvis sxva arxze rTavs, Tuki kadrSi TviTon Cndeba.

zogierTi varskvlavuri fobia arc klasifika-ciaSi jdeba da mas gonivruli axsnac ar moeZebneba. swored amitomac aris fobia! saientologiis mim-devar tom kruzs samyaros aRsasrulisa da ucxo-planetelebis SemoWris eSinia. jon travoltas _ garecxili tansacmlis Cacmisa. amitomac ram-denjerme naxmar nivTebs yris da axals yidulobs. devid beqhemi ver itans, Tu macivarSi produqtebi araTanabrad, wyvilad ar awyvia da yovelTvis Tavidan iSorebs zedmet sagans, vTqvaT, koka-kolas mesame qila iqneba Tu mexuTe vaSli. cnobili tele-wamyvani opra uinfri ki saReW rezins ver itans. mas imdenad eSinia `JvaCkis~, rom sakuTari Toq-Sous monawileebs ukrZalavda mis gamoyenebas, xolo SemTxveviT, ucodinrobis gamo, misma stumarma Tu kevi TefSze datova, opra mas TefSianad, sanagveSi isvris.

varskvlavebis yvelaze ucnauri fobiebi

Sendeba yovladwminda RvTismSoblis `yovelTa dedoflis - pantanasas~ saxelobis dedaTa monasteri `yovelTa dedoflis savane~`yovelTa dedofali pantanasas~ RvTismSobeli cnobilia,

rogorc onkologiur avadmyofTa Semwe. samwuxarod, saqarT-veloSi gaizarda am seniT daavadebul avadmyofTa raodenoba. mrevlisa da onkologiur daavadebaTa respublikuri centris eqimebisa da pacientebis TxovniT, aTonis wm. mTaze, vatobedis monasterSi, sadac dabrZanebulia xatis originali, Seiqmna misi asli, romelic 2003 wels CamobrZanda avWalis wm. qeTevan wamebulis eklesiaSi. kviraSi 2-jer: oTxSabaTs da paraskevs, dRis 2 saaTze, aRevlineba janmrTelobis paraklisi da usasy-idlod gaicema sakurnebeli zeTi RvTismSoblis kandelidan. xatTan dRemde aResruleba saswaulebi. mravali adamiani

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turistebs italia izidavsmTel msoflioSi turistebSi Catarebuli gamokiTxvis Sedegad

gairkva 20 saukeTeso turistuli mimarTuleba. Sedegebis mixed-viT, Tuki dasveneba gsurT (da amis saSualebac gaqvT), qveynebs Soris arCevani aucileblad italiaze SeaCereT. kunZulebs Soris berZnulebs mianiWeT upiratesoba.

qalaqebidan, gamokiTxvis lideri niu-iorki aRmoCnda. rogorc gairkva, mogzaurebi apeninis kunZulebs italiuri restornebisa da rasakvirvelia, aqauri RirsSesaniSnaobis gamo swyaloben. meore adgili SeerTebul Statebs ergo, mesame safexuri ki TurqeTma daikava. saukeTeso peizaJebis naxva samxreT afrikaSia SesaZlebe-li, romelic qveynebis reitingSi merve adgilze imyofeba. gamo-cema Conde Nast Traveller-is Catarebuli gamokiTxviT isic dadginda, rom yvelaze stumarTmoyvare xalxi indoeTSi cxovrobs, sauke-Teso oceulSi ki es qveyana me-6 adgilze imyofeba.

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modis mimdevrebisTvis iPod-halstuxebi Seqmnes

Cadbury-is konditerebma Sokoladi daamzades, romelic ar dneba. axla Dairy milk-is batoni, sami saaTis ganmavlobaSi, 40-gra-dusian sicxeSic ki ar galRveba. Cveulebrivi Sokoladi Seicavs kakaos cxims, rZesa da Saqars. Cadbury-m Saqris ufro mcire nawilebad daSlis meqanizmi SeimuSava da Sokoladis cximianobac Seamcira. am cvlilebebma ki produqti sicxisadmi gamZled aqcia. kompaniis swavlulebma ganacxades, rom es wingadadgmuli nabijia Sokoladis warmoebis teqnologiaSi da ukve ganacxadic Seitanes didi britaneTis sapatento palataSi. produqtis gayidvas ki planetis cxel qveynebSi, pirvel rigSi, braziliasa da indoeTSi gegmaven. Tumca, amave dros, firmis konditerebi ar malaven, rom es cvlilebebi Sokoladis gemoze zegavlenas moaxdens. miuxeda-vad amisa, britanelebi moiTxoven, Cadbury-is eqsportze gaTv-lili axali produqciis nawili mainc gayidon nislian albionze.

samuSao adgilebs latariaSi aTamaSeben

italiaSi umuSevrobis maCvene-belma piks miaRwia. samuSao adgilebs apeninebze ukve latariaSi aTamaSe-ben. masSi monawileoba SeuZlia One Price-is qselis yvela klients, vinc sayidlebze Tundac 30 evro daxarja. gamarjvebuls kompania dawesebule-baSi gamyidvelis asistentis vakansias sTavazobs. latariaSi sul aseTi 12 saprizo adgili TamaSdeba, rac arasrul samuSao cvlaSi (dReSi 4 saa-Ti) msurvels TveSi, xelfasis saxiT, 1100 evros moutans. aRsaniSnavia, rom myidvelTa umravlesobam (90%-ma) Tanxmoba ganacxada latariaSi monaw-ileobaze, Tumca bevrs ainteresebda, gamarjvebis SemTxvevaSi, SeeZlo Tu ara samuSao adgilis axloblisTvis gadacema. umuSevrobis donem daax-loebiT 11,1% Seadgina, rac bolo 13 wlis ganmavlobaSi yvelaze maRali maCvenebelia.

msoflios yvela qveyanaSi ofisebSi momuSa-veTa armia yoveldRiurad Sor manZils gadis saxlidan samsaxuramde. gzaSi yvela ise er-Toba, rogorc SeuZlia _ zogi Tvlems, sxvebi kiTxuloben, zogic mowyenili aTvalierebs gzas. yvelaze xSirad ki adamianebi dros klaven musikis mosmeniT an kiTxviT. maTTvis, vinc upiratesobas iPod-s aniWebs, saqmiani tansac-mlis mwarmoebelma inglisurma firmam Thomas Pink specialuri halstuxebi gamouSva, romlis ukana mxaresac patara jibea Apple-is am mox-denili qmnilebisTvis. abreSumis halstuxebi idealuri `adgilia~ fleerebis Sesanaxad da gzaSi musikis mosasmenad, aseve ofisSi (ufro-sis Cumad) da mosawyen Sexvedrebze an wveule-bebze gasarTobad. jibe fleers itevs, xolo specialuri lenti mis zemoT yursacvamebis sadenebs halstuxis gareT ar `uSvebs~. am metad xelsayreli da Tanac moduri aqsesuaris SeZena modis mimdevrebs 55 girvanqa sterlingad SeeZlebaT.

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yava da sigareti marTlac icavs parkinsonizmisgan

amerikeli mecnierebis monacemebiT, parkinsoniT daavadebuli adamianebi naklebad arian mwevelebi da yavis gac-ilebiT nakleb raodenobas moixmaren, vidre sxva janmrTeli adamianebi. mkvlevarTa azriT, yavasa da nikotins marTlac SeuZlia daicvan tvini nei-rodegeneraciuli daavadebebisgan. mowevis kavSiri parkinsonizmis gan-viTarebis dabal riskTan didi xania cnobilia mecnierebisTvis. amave dros, bevri eqsperti am daavadebas geneti-kurad miiCnevs, Tumca, sigaretisadmi midrekilebis uqonloba parkinsoniT daavadebulebSi SeiZleba aseve gene-tikurad iyos ganpirobebuli.

am hipoTezis Semowmeba maiamis uni-versitetis mkvlevarebma gadawyvites. gamokvlevaSi monawileoba miiRo parkinsoniT daavadebulma 356-ma ada-

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