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Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 1/11/2014 11:14:17 AM

I would say by definition as an Orthodox / Coptic Christian, Rastafari inherently have a different interpretation of the Bible from the

Dreadlocks.Haile Selassie - through the vortex of his religion based solely off the bible - would not declare himself (or we at least have no evidence of) the Almighty Jah/God. Dreadlocks come this interpretation not based off how Haile Selassie interpret the same thing.

Rasta write them own Bible for the most part - You think HIM see the Bible in the same manner as Howell? Fitzpatrick? or even Gad? .........

Again, i would declare ALL dreadlock Rasta have different interpretation of the bible than the Orthodox and Coptic Churches of HIM's Ethiopia.

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+ To deal with 'mistaken' - Perhaps Ethiopia of the 1930s, a Country adherent to the Bible / Christianity for almost 2000 years, was not yet appropriate to make a full change. What would be the point of a spiritual revolution which doesn't benefit ones immediate life situation - as sociopolitical tool. I believe Christianity was necessary asa national religion (if one is to have a religion) of Ethiopia circa 1930-1970.

And one must not forget, Christianity in Ethiopia is a whole different concept / practice when compared to any other Western overstanding of Christianity.- For example many people believe the Bible is written as to subject 'believers' to conformity to the local Government (from Roman times). Now imagine the Government is not a wicked babylonian government as in the West- But the Government is one of Ethiopia itself. This has its

advantages.....What I am saying as the Bible is a sociopolitical TOOL which has always been used to give Subjects a religion to 'believe in' while the underlying theme promotes the subjected rule governing power. Christianity in the West promotes Western Culture. Christianity inna Rome promoted the Roman Empire / Emporer. As it was as it shall be, Christianity in Ethiopia (with its Black kings queens and prophets in all of their glory) shall promote the governing body of Ethiopia.

That same sociopolitical tool is NOT of a benefit or use to InI here in the Western dispensation post slavery and colonial rule. And being a sociopolitical tool does not make it the truth, nor does it mean Haile saw it as anything else.

When I Rasta Burn the Bible, i do so in the name of Haile Selassie. The

essence of Haile Selassie as the unconquerable pure essence of InI, that

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shall be the very driving force which leads to InI to put down this book and its confusion. My religious practice gives Isis to the Ancestors... and a that we a work with alone

Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 1/11/2014 11:38:01 AM

This may not be true for the Ethiopians..... but for anybody in the West.....

I dont care how long you have had 'knowledge of self' or an overstanding of 'Yoshua'

When one is to think of CHRIST / THE SON OF GOD

The immediate brain-amygdalae-memory-response association through growing up in the West - will automatically conjure up a picture of

MichaelAngelos uncle and the character of 'Jesus' as predefined by Rome. This is the initial image of Christ first exposed to our consciousness which we cannot help. And we cannot work with....... Burn JC in his entirity. If he was a real man it was Rome who declared him a God. Burn their interpretation. Ites up the Ancestors them who we know as Real. We dont know if Christ really feed 5000 with couple bread and fish? We do KNOW of the life of HIM. This is the difference.

I Rasta dont work with Son of God - No intermediate - No middle man between the I and Haile Selassie. Haile Selassie doesnt work through people, I man work with the direct connection. I Rasta wouldnt put ANY MAN - Yoshua included - Mohammed included - the whole a dem included - as higher than I and I. Them haven't been sent / are no more relation / are no closer or higher to the Almighty than

I man Garveys Africa. A so I see it..... we dont deal with intermediary. Haile Selassie I a INI. A that we a work with....Dont bother mention no other Guy name.... Burn Yoshua - is HIM alone.

Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 1/11/2014 12:10:19 PM

For man that nah read all of that long text.... This was the conclusion

I Rasta wouldnt put ANY MAN - Yoshua included - Mohammed included -

the whole a dem included - as higher than I and I. Them haven't been sent / are no more relation / are no closer or higher to the Almighty than I man Garveys Africa. A so I see it..... we dont deal with intermediary. Haile Selassie I a INI. A that we a work with....Dont bother mention no other Guy name.... Burn Yoshua - is HIM alone.

Messenger: Ark I Sent: 1/11/2014 12:11:31 PM

I am not talking about Haile Selassie I specific interpretation of the Bible, I am taking about His assessment and opinion about the Bible. If you are

not sure what that is, many of the Speeches on this website show Haile Selassie I assessment and opinion about the Bible.

You say that when you say burn the Bible, you are talking about a purification, but most of what you say shows the intention to discard and throw away the Bible, not purify it.



RasTafarI people burn the European concept and image of Jesus, not the man Yeshua. And RasTafarI people burn out the misunderstandings of man that are written in the bible, not the Righteousness and not the Bible as a whole.

Why do people feel they need to change the ways of RasTafarI people? There are different ways of thought that fit in much better with your opinion, or you and people like you can make your own thing. RasTafarI people have a High opinion of the Teachings of Haile Selassie I, and it is not about doing every single thing exactly like Haile Selassie I, but the thing you are trying to discard is a very important and significant part of Haile Selassie I, in Haile Selassie I opinion and in I and I opinion.

Messenger: zion mountain Sent: 1/11/2014 2:41:40 PM

Well, Rasta is saying Haile Selassie

I. We nah come off of that. Theconsciousness meaning that whatHaile Selassie did when he was RasTafari and what he has done beingthe Emperor of Ethiopia, we haveseen him shaping Africa. And wecan look on what he has done as

Rastas and see a certain Christ-nessthat is what we are searching for.Not as we were taught it, becausefirst of all, to really understandwhat the Rastaman is saying aboutHaile Selassie, you haffe go moveJesus out of your mind. This idea,

this Jesus concept that was given tous by Rome. You have to totallywipe it out and this God mentality,this God-conciousness. You have tomove that out now and reshape it.You have to look within man not inthe sky. And I think that is what a

whole heap of Jamaicans finddifficult. That when the Rastamansay Haile Selassie, he is trying toput what he sees in his mind aboutGod with what we is talking aboutthis Man. And not knowing that

what he sees in his mind is what isin man. There is no other conceptoutside of man. Is man make God. Ifthere was no man, there wouldn'tbe any concept of God. So you haveto look within man to find thereality of life and what life really

mean. So when man is him good,him say is God, and when man ishim bad, him say is the devil, but isreally man still. So all concepts ofgood and bad is coming from man



is emanate from man.#Elder Muta again

Messenger: zion mountain Sent: 1/11/2014 2:53:56 PM

The Bible is to confuse you, but stillit is there to heal you. It is a bookwritten by men of old to expresstheir historical understanding oflife. But now you in this time would

have to look into it, and see what isbest suitable for your existence andwhat is not. There is no way I'mgoing to follow God in the OldTestament and sacrifice animalscause I love the scent of it. And if Ido something wrong, I'm going to

go out there and get so muchturtles and so much oxen and burnthem. That is primitive thinking.But they say is God say it. I knowGod nah have nuttin fe do with it. Itis man trump up all these thing. Sothe god of Moses is not the god of

Christ, because Christ come anddeny everything weh them say himsay, 'you have heard that it wassaid, but I say . . .' So him a showyou a higher thing now. But I liveinna dis time ya so now. Ya haffelook pon now, wha dem a seh Jesus

say. What Paul say? Paul a trygather up some numbers from theGreeks and the Romans fe bringthem over to a Jewish form ofChristianity. Now, I am not aRoman or a Greek, so a lot of lettersthat Paul write to these people, the

Ephesians, the Romans, theCorinthians. I wouldn't take it uponmyself and say is me, because I acome from a different experience. Ia come from an African experience.I come from five-hundred years ofcolonialism and slavery. So I would

have to shape God within thecontext of my life and how can Godwork for me. I nah work for God.How can God a go work for me?Because is I going to create all ofthis reality. So I create within my

reality a historical figure and ahistorical person. That is HaileSelassie. I can see how HaileSelassie work for me, because I seehim work for Africa. And I see howthat linkage link the old with thenew and with the now. And I have

something to refer to withoutthinking mythologically. Becausewhen I think pon Jesus, I haffethink mythologically. When I thinkpon Haile Selassie, I don't haffe



think mythologically#Muta again


But his assessment is based off his interpretation? Or is it based off your interpretation?

Nobody come to change Rastafari. As I said, it look like a twelve tribe convention.

How can one talk about change rastafari? Rastafari has never been one sole voice of interpretation, a lie? And this train of thought has always been there. A spirit of ancestral calling. We are not the ones who come to change the livity, ask most ras who read bible and eat fish.....

I would like to remind that in my first post I have already said I am

aware there are things (even if plagiarised) in the bible which contain fact, and contain enlightment. But that still doesn't make it necessary component of rastafari.


Melchezidek ur last sentence sell off.....yes king

Until somebody shows me a picture or sculpture or painting of the African Christ (ie not one created 100s-1000s years after him gone).....

Until one does that, a Haile Selassie we a work with strictly, no mysticism. Who wants to see him?


+ man made this thread with a few questions about the bible while stating the purification should be the intention when we burn the bible

But through the replies and response it gone a way...... Like a bible vs none bible thing. Ok but a no so it set

And we still don't see anything in the first post addressed. A jus so it go.

Messenger: NordMan Sent: 1/11/2014 5:43:01 PM

Garveys Africa, you really seem to have a certain muta between you and Selassie I, wouldn't you agree?

Zion Mountain, you too seem to take everything muta say as truth as of late, like a rebellious kind of thing. No need for it. Those that truly sight HIM don't deal with christianity. The Bible is not a threat.

No book has never enslaved anyone. That idea is just weakhearted right



through.

What Man would be enslaved by a book. No one. To say that about fellow brothers and sisters is not right. Every man have a mind and a choice of their own. No book has anything to do with it.

I and I father teaches I and I to read and study the Bible, as well as secular knowlege.

Men cannot come between Selassie I and I. HIM has been well to clear on theese points.

One black love

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